my gf is a bra size 36D.  she wants to buy a burton kids snowboard
jacket, XL, or XXL. the XL is chest size 41, the XXL is chest 43".

we are having a debate, is her chest size including her bust. or not.
so what chest size should she get for her jacket. 
(of course she will wear a sweater, and want it to not be too tight.)

this is a 2 part question.

Hi markp-ga,

In answer to your first question: yes her chest size will include her
bust.  The 36D you mentioned is a measurement derived from taking a
measurement underneath her bust and adding either 4 inches or 5 inches
depending on what the underneath measurement comes to.

For sizing, the industry asks women to measure the bust from the
fullest part of the bust. With arms relaxed down at sides, measure
fullest part of the bust/chest keeping tape measure parallel with the
floor (in other words straight around).

Second part: It appears that she will be comfortable in a kids size
XL.

I hope this helps!

Google search terms used:  "Burton snowboard clothing"  "Burton
jackets"
Sizing charts used:  Lands End and Chadwicks catalogues. 

tlspiegel
Google Answers Researcher

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Request for Answer Clarification by markp-ga on 17 Dec 2002 08:43 PST

you are basing your answer - she would be "comfortable in a kids XL",
based on lands end sizing chart?  Is that the same chest size jacket
as the burton sizes I mentioned?

Also: note: she is a 38D, not a 36D. my bad.
She would probably need a kids XXL (burton XXL 43" chest size) ?

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Request for Answer Clarification by markp-ga on 17 Dec 2002 09:00 PST

my bad: she IS a 36D
, so only the first part of my clarification is relevant.

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Clarification of Answer by tlspiegel-ga on 17 Dec 2002 11:33 PST

Hi markp-ga,

Now, being she's a 38D changes the picture quite a bit.  That's quite
a difference from 36D.  No, I'm not basing my answer on 'just' the
sizing chart of 2 manufacturers.  I even placed a call last night to a
company that's the major seller of Burton's for kids.

The gentleman told me (I'm only repeating what he said) that:  XXL was
a size as far as he knew was not sold in kids sizes, but based on the
measurement you gave me, that would be a woman's size 12-14 and she'd
be comfortable in an XL - based on the 36D size.  He also confirmed my
knowledge of how to measure and that would be across the fullest size
of the bust.

So, the first part of your question is to be answered as I stated: 
YES, across the fullest size of her bust would equal the chest size
for her in a jacket, or actually any piece of upper body clothing from
a tank top to a t-shirt, to blouses, sweaters, jackets, and coats.  :)

In measuring for a bra size, she would take the measurement from
underneath her bust, and if the measurement was an even number she'd
add 4 inches.  For example:  measurement is 30 inches, she'd add 4
inches and come up with a 34.

If it were an odd number such as 31, then she'd add 5 inches to round
up to an even number.  Bra sizes vary starting with an even number of
let's say 30 inches on up to 40 inches.  Maybe higher.  But always an
even number.

Measurement for upper body clothing is ALWAYS the measurement around
the fullest part of the bust.

I hope this helps!

tlspiegel
Google Answers Researcher

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Clarification of Answer by tlspiegel-ga on 17 Dec 2002 12:53 PST

Please note:  ******

UPDATED by Researcher: I did not see this most recent post by you...
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Request for Answer Clarification by markp-ga on 17 Dec 2002 09:00 PST
my bad: she IS a 36D 
, so only the first part of my clarification is relevant.
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To clear this up for you since you've determined her bra size is 36D
and not 38D as stated in the post by you 15 minutes before on 17 Dec
2002 at 08:43 PST.

Yes, the XL kid's size will fit her.  I'm basing that not only on the
size charts mentioned but by what the gentleman told me on the phone
from the company that does sell Burtons.  He said that size - XL in
kids - will fit her nicely.

tlspiegel
Google Answers Researcher

Good job.  good response time.  Thank you for irrefutable proof from
the experts on how to measure bust size / bra size / chest size for a
jacket or whatever.  God Bless Google!

Hi markp-ga,

Thank you very much for the nice rating and the tip!  Yes, God Bless Google... 
:)

tlspiegel
Google Answers Researcher