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For Sublime1- Ga........... Threat of War
Category: Family and Home Asked by: steph53-ga List Price: $2.50 |
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16 Mar 2003 19:49 PST
Expires: 15 Apr 2003 20:49 PDT Question ID: 177143 |
Just why is it that no one is mentioning that a war may start on March 17,2003??????? I know we all try to pretend that life is the same... but come on?? I dunno... but I am scared to death not just for me but for my family & loved ones... in USA...and here in Canada. Am I overeacting??? Thats my question I guess... Any other comments are welcome............ |
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Re: For Sublime1- Ga........... Threat of War
Answered By: sublime1-ga on 16 Mar 2003 23:05 PST Rated: |
steph53... Overreacting? No, I don't think so. You're probably feeling what most of the world is feeling. It's downright frightening to know that one man, or a handful of men can set in motion a devastating, destructive process which threatens to have continued repercussions on into the future. Of course, I could be speaking about either of the perceived 'sides'. Such behaviors can only spring from the belief that fear is justified, and the results of the belief are the behaviors which justify and perpetuate it. Silly, huh? To end this foolishness, it is necessary to arrive within yourself at a place where fear is not justified, and ceases to affect you. When the vast majority have accomplished this, war will never be considered as an option. Arriving at this place within you is, of course, the goal of all the paths to enlightenment, and is a path we must ultimately travel alone. One of the major and final blocks on this path is overcoming the fear of death, which is, after all, the biggest threat that war can muster. There are many ideas about the unreality of death as a final end, however, actually facing the fear of it is, perhaps, the best way to overcome it. Stephen Levine has written an excellent discussion of this in 'Who Dies?: An Investigation of Conscious Living and Conscious Dying' This book offers not only a thorough examination of the topic, but a series of exercises which assist in the process of looking death in the face, and arriving at peace with it. The book is at Amazon.com, here: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385262213/102-3754974-8098550?vi=glance An excerpt from the book is available on TheBody.com: http://www.thebody.com/double/levine.html Another excerpt is on the Cygnus Books site: http://www.cygnus-books.co.uk/features/who_dies_stephen_levine.htm Short of pursuing that ultimate goal, you may wish to channel the energy you are feeling into constructive efforts to stop, or at least postpone the conflict. MoveOn.org offers many options and useful links: http://www.moveon.org/ And, finally, I'd offer you the chance to perceive what has happened, thus far, in a more hopeful light. I received an email recently, forwarding the content of a hope-filled speech by Dr. Robert Muller, former assistant secretary general of the United Nations. The email did a poor job, however, of making clear what was directly quoted and what was not, so I went to Google news to look for a cleaner copy of the speech. Much to my surprise, it was not cited online anywhere. I finally tracked it down in one solitary entry in a newsgroup. Happily, since then, it has found its way onto a website or two, such as this one, at GlobalMeditations.com: "Dr. Muller proceeded to say, 'Never before in the history of the world has there been a global, visible, public, viable, open dialogue and conversation about the very legitimacy of war'." "The whole world is in now having this critical and historic dialogue--listening to all kinds of points of view and positions about going to war or not going to war. In a huge global public conversation the world is asking - 'Is war legitimate? Is it illegitimate? Is there enough evidence to warrant an attack? Is there not enough evidence to warrant an attack? What will be the consequences? The costs? What will happen after a war? How will this set off other conflicts? What might be peaceful alternatives? What kind of negotiations are we not thinking of? What are the real intentions for declaring war?'" Be sure to read the whole speech: http://www.globalmeditations.com/Rmuller.htm Please do not rate this answer until you are satisfied that the answer cannot be improved upon by means of a dialog established through the "Request for Clarification" process. sublime1-ga Searches done, via Google: "who dies" levine ://www.google.com/search?q=%22who+dies%22+levine moveon ://www.google.com/search?q=moveon "surprised, even stunned, many in the audience that day with" ://www.google.com/search?q=%22surprised%2C+even+stunned%2C+many+in+the+audience+that+day+with%22 |
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Thanks sublime1...great thought provocking answer and exactly what I was looking for :) pinkfreud: yes I am old enough to remember the Gulf War in 1991..and although lots of people are comparing the two, I tend to disagree with any similarities. jbf777 and mathtalk: although the actual war will be a great distance from the US, I do not believe that there will be no " damages " to the US. I do hope that you are right and I am wrong though. Anyways, thanks all!!! |
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Re: For Sublime1- Ga........... Threat of War
From: pinkfreud-ga on 16 Mar 2003 19:55 PST |
Steph, There's quite a bit of mentioning going on here: http://answers.google.com/answers/main?cmd=threadview&id=176963 |
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From: steph53-ga on 16 Mar 2003 20:10 PST |
I saw that Pink, However, the answer is not there... I guess I am playing the "devils advocate" here............. Whatever our world may look like in a few days time......... Who knows? |
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From: pinkfreud-ga on 16 Mar 2003 20:22 PST |
Steph, Are you old enough to remember the Gulf War of 1991? |
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From: jbf777-ga on 16 Mar 2003 20:26 PST |
I think the number one reason people don't worry too much about it is because it's not a war on our turf. This a war we're fighting on someone else's land, quite a ways away. Granted, they have limited capability in attacking us, but Iraq is ~168,000 square miles. North America is ~9,500,000, not to mention the UK and other allies. We're big. They're small. Real small -- in many ways. We saw no backlash on our homeland from the gulf war. I wouldn't expect anything different here, although there is the chance for suicide attacks. Fear, like loneliness and other emotions, are perceptions that you must overcome. You can die any day. You don't need a war to die. You've got a greater chance dying in your car tomorrow than by dying in some way from this war. |
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From: mathtalk-ga on 16 Mar 2003 21:30 PST |
Yes, jbf777-ga, nothing to see here. Everyone move along now, just a small war against a small country, quite unable to defend itself. We never took that vote in the Security Council, so it really is perfectly legal to do this sort of thing, right? No one gets hurt, well no one we necessarily know or care about... we are the great Americans after all, the world loves to hate us for all the wonderful things we do for them that no one else could do or would have the nerve to do. Things are great, great, great. I was getting really tired of having that Bill of Rights and stuff about Congress having the power to declare war. I'm sure very few people will need to be held indefinitely without trials, and again, no one we necessarily know or care about... hey, what's with those handcuffs... HEY NOT ME I'M A GOOD AMERICAN, IIayaaahhhh.... |
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From: jbf777-ga on 17 Mar 2003 08:16 PST |
Heheh.. hey math, don't get me wrong -- I'm not "war-monger"... but I am in direct favor of proactively attacking any terrorist nations. Iraq included. A continuation of the war on terrorism requires us to do so. Bush originally stated, "We will make no distinction between terrorists and the nations that harbor them." This questioner seemed like he/she wanted his/her fears allayed in terms of the U.S. being "damaged" by such an attack. I don't think there's anything to worry about in terms of *us*. Civilians in Iraq? Yes. It's not a pretty picture. I hope the war is as cleanly fought as possible, with an absolute minimum of civiilian casualties. I view it as a defensive move. War is never pretty. |
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From: justaskscott-ga on 17 Mar 2003 17:50 PST |
Hello Steph53, I do not want scare you or anyone else out there. But I presume that we are all mature adults, and that it's better to know the possible consequences than to believe in well-meant words of comfort. If we know what might happen, we can work collectively to try to prevent it from happening. At least we have to try. Here is one set of possible worst-case scenarios, from a trustworthy source: the personal briefing officer for Norman Schwarzkopf during the Gulf War. This is one set of reasons why I oppose the war. (Note: The commentator has left out the possibility that Pakistan could fall to supporters of Al-Qaeda.) "Commentary: Possible Worst-Case Scenarios If War With Iraq Occurs" (orning Edition: March 11, 2003) National Public Radio (NPR) http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/transcripts/2003/mar/030311.turner.html |
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From: justaskscott-ga on 17 Mar 2003 17:53 PST |
Of course, the citation should say "Morning Edition", not "orning Edition". I don't know what happened to the "M" ... perhaps it was required at that moment for those exclaiming "Madness", when they think about what is going on today. |
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From: steph53-ga on 17 Mar 2003 19:41 PST |
Thanks justaskscott: I agree that yes, there can be very real dangers here in North America and so very few people will admit to this. Scarey? Oh yes......... but now its out of everyones' hands save for the political bigwigs...and it now appears that war is inevitable.... I have just had an eerie feeling about this since the inception of it all.. Mabe a sense of the future? I dunno... but what I DO know is that we will all find out very shortly. Although I am not religious in any sense, there is a biblical quote about a 3rd world war that would end life as we know it. We thought , in 1991, that it would be the Gulf War....but no... |
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From: eiffel-ga on 18 Mar 2003 02:43 PST |
You may also be interested to read the thoughtful answer provided by snapanswer-ga to a question six months ago: "How to stop Bush?" http://answers.google.com/answers/main?cmd=threadview&id=70660 |
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