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Alka-Seltzer makes Seagulls Explode?
Category: Science > Biology Asked by: pull_the_trig-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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14 Jun 2003 16:01 PDT
Expires: 14 Jul 2003 16:01 PDT Question ID: 217385 |
I have always heard that Alka-Selzer makes Seagulls explode. However, Snopes.com says this is a myth. Is there any proof like a photo or video of this actually being the case? Prove or disprove that feeding Alka-Seltzer to a seagull makes them explode. |
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Re: Alka-Seltzer makes Seagulls Explode?
From: pinkfreud-ga on 14 Jun 2003 16:21 PDT |
It's very difficult to prove that something cannot happen, but I think Snopes is correct in debunking the exploding-gull story. Here's a copy of a letter in which the manufacturers of Alka-Seltzer say that their product does not have seagull-exploding properties: http://www.skepticfiles.org/urban/alka-sel.htm More on the matter: http://www.enviroliteracy.org/asktheexpert.php/49.html A friend of mine who lives in Corpus Christi tried to feed Alka-Seltzer to seagulls a few years ago (in the name of science.) My friend reported that the gulls did not want to eat the plain tablets (I would think that, to a bird, they look like flat little rocks,) so my friend wrapped the Alka-Seltzer in Wonder Bread and glommed the bread down tightly around the tabs. The gulls grabbed the bread-wrapped tablets, gulped them down, and a moment later, barfed them up again. No explosions, unless vomiting counts as an explosion. Considering how easy it is to concoct a Photoshopped fake, I would be very skeptical of any images that claim to show a seagull bursting from effervescent antacid intake. |
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Re: Alka-Seltzer makes Seagulls Explode?
From: knowledge_seeker-ga on 14 Jun 2003 16:47 PDT |
Urban Legend. Think logically. In order for a seagull to explode, 2 things would have to occur. First, the bird would have to have no ability to release the gas formed by the alka seltzer. We know this isn't true, since birds (including seagulls) do have the ability to "burp" to let off excess gas in the upper digestive tract. They can also regurgitate food if it doesn't agree with them. Second, even if they couldn't burp, the gas from a SINGLE alka seltzer would have to expand strong enough and fast enough to blow open the digestive system of the bird AND forcefully explode his whole body. C'mon... really! If alka seltzers had that kind of power, I don't think any of us would be taking them. Finally, why seagulls? They are just another bird. If it were true, don't you think we'd be hearing about exploding pelicans, ducks, pigeons, chickens, or what have you? No, this is like the duck's quack not echoing. It's one of those things that people love to believe, even though it has no basis in science. CAN BIRDS BURP? http://www.enviroliteracy.org/asktheexpert.php/49.html -K~ PS - Not posted as an answer because it isn't proof or disproof. It's just plain sense. |
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Re: Alka-Seltzer makes Seagulls Explode?
From: magnesium-ga on 14 Jun 2003 19:54 PDT |
What an odd mythconception. If it were true that this substance would cause gulls to explode, I would think that people who view gulls as nuisance birds would use Alka Seltzer as a pest control device. ;) |
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Re: Alka-Seltzer makes Seagulls Explode?
From: pull_the_trig-ga on 14 Jun 2003 20:52 PDT |
I have just heard and read many "firsthand" accounts of people seeing this, doing this or knowing someone who has. It is also part of useless facts lists. |
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Re: Alka-Seltzer makes Seagulls Explode?
From: chellphill-ga on 14 Jun 2003 21:50 PDT |
An amusing web site about the topic of feeding birds Alka-Seltzer and rice. http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_081.html ""The birds have no means to pass gas orally or ventrally," Wayne writes, "so they just go in a burst of feathers!" Uh-huh. Wayne is hereby named High Commissioner of Experimental Alka-Seltzer Seagull Feeding. I expect a full report." " At U.S. Air Force survival school in Spokane, Washington, students are told to drop Alka-Seltzer into wading pools in order to secure an easy lunch of seagull, says Brian Bourke. Many pilots carry Alka-Seltzer with them on sorties for this reason." " Ex-serviceman Allen Greiner reports that while stationed on the Gulf Coast, he and his friends used to entertain themselves by tossing Alka-Seltzer to circling seagulls, who would catch the tablets in mid-air. If the gull succeeded in swallowing the Alka-Seltzer, it would falter after a short time, foam at the beak, then projectile vomit its stomach contents. Afterward the bird would be as healthy as ever. Bet this comes as a surprise to downed pilots tossing Alka-Seltzer in wading pools" "While we're on the subject of exploding birds, rice, and Alka-Seltzer, perhaps you'll tackle another one, if it has not yet been resolved in the annals of science. I remember faintly from early childhood that if you give a frog a cigarette, it will continuously inhale until it explodes, a rather graphic example of the perils of smoking. --Peter Kreutlein Cecil replies: Peter, I'm counting to three. If you're not of here by then, there's going to be an explosion. And it won't be the frog." |
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Re: Alka-Seltzer makes Seagulls Explode?
From: pull_the_trig-ga on 15 Jun 2003 09:15 PDT |
As far as dehydrated rice goes, you take 1 mL of rice and 1mL of water and end up with 2 mL of hydrated rice. The total volume of in the reactor, ie stomach, or pot, has remained practically constant. So rice does expand, but only absorbs the volume of water that was already there. Alka-Selzer actually produces CO2 gas so if a seagull's burp/vomit was malfunctioning, who knows what could happen. |
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Re: Alka-Seltzer makes Seagulls Explode?
From: pinkfreud-ga on 15 Jun 2003 09:20 PDT |
It would be interesting to experiment with a balloon to see whether Alka-Seltzer causes a huge, sudden rush of gas such as would be required in order to explode a bird. Having watched Alka-Seltzer fizzing mildly in a glass, somehow I doubt it. I used to have a parakeet who enjoyed sipping my homemade root beer. It was very bubbly. He never exploded. ;-) |
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Re: Alka-Seltzer makes Seagulls Explode?
From: owain-ga on 15 Jun 2003 13:30 PDT |
Exploding birds was discussed on uk.d-i-y with reference to pigeons. Two postings included: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&selm=5e6ce5ec.0304010132.2b17c653%40posting.google.com I have been told (but have never tried it myself) that calcium carbide wrapped in bread works quite well. Apparently when it makes contact with stomach juices the acetylene gas liberated blows up the pigeon. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&selm=%242naJ%24CMvwi%2BEw1g%40bozzie.demon.co.uk Magnesium silicide (Mg2Si) should be better. When that comes into contact with acid, it reacts to form silane (SiH4) ^ and magnesium oxide. Silane spontaneously combusts in the presence of oxygen, such as that found in the small pocket of fundic air in the stomach... Googlegroups uk.d-i-y pigeon problem for the full thread. Owain |
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