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Subject: supreme court justice guote
Category: Reference, Education and News > Teaching and Research
Asked by: primarysource-ga
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Posted: 08 Jul 2003 11:30 PDT
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Question ID: 226615
What is the original source (and I would like the original citation,
that is a "primary source") "I can't define pornography but when I see
it I can recognize it."  I believe that the word was "pornography" but
it could also have been "obscenity." It is variously attributed to
Justices Potter Stewart,
Blackman, and even one place I saw (but I can't believe it" William
Rehnquist.
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Subject: Re: supreme court justice guote
Answered By: journalist-ga on 08 Jul 2003 12:13 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Greetings Primarysource:

I found a solid reference to the origin of this quote:

"Second, people often define "inequality" the way the Supreme Court
defines pornography—as Justice Potter Stewart wrote in Jacobellis v.
Ohio (1964), "I can't define pornography, but I know it when I see
it."
From http://www.mises.org/fullstory.asp?control=1229

I then searched Jacobellis v. Ohio 1964:

Found at http://www.aegis.com/law/SCt/Decisions/1964/378US184.html
U.S. Supreme Court
JACOBELLIS v. OHIO, 378 U.S. 184 (1964)
APPEAL FROM THE SUPREME COURT OF OHIO. No. 11.
Argued March 26, 1963. Restored to the calendar for reargument April
29, 1963. Reargued April 1, 1964.
Decided June 22, 1964.

"MR. JUSTICE STEWART, concurring.

"It is possible to read the Court's opinion in Roth v. United States
and Alberts v. California, 354 U.S. 476, in a variety of ways. In
saying this, I imply no criticism of the Court, which in those cases
was faced with the task of trying to define what may be indefinable. I
have reached the conclusion, which I think is confirmed at least by
negative implication in the Court's decisions since Roth and Alberts,1
that under the First and Fourteenth Amendments criminal laws in this
area are constitutionally limited to hard-core pornography.2 I shall
not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand
to be embraced within that shorthand description; and perhaps I could
never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it,
and the motion picture involved in this case is not that."

There are the words "I shall not today attempt further to define the
kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand
description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing
so. But I know it when I see it..."   However, the quote that has
emerged from his writing is different that his original statement.  It
is quite possible that a reporter stated "He said he couldn't define
it but he knew it when he saw it" and it became convoluted from there.
 Or it was a reporter's paraphrasing of Stewart's commentary such as
"He said he couldn't define pornography but 'I know it when I see
it.'"

Also, here are the dates of service of the men you mentioned:

Potter Stewart (1958-1981) 
Harry A. Blackmun (1970-1994)
William H. Rehnquist (1972-Present)
These names and dates appear at
http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/cases/judges.htm


I hope my research has cleared up the attribution for you.  :)

Best regards,
journalist-ga


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"I can't define pornography" origin
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primarysource-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $10.00
This is a five star answer, but the question (including
misspelling/misspelling of the word "quote") wasn't and isn't a five
star question. Nonetheless, the speed of the reply and the providing
of the original citation was exactly as requested warrants five stars.

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Subject: Re: supreme court justice guote
From: journalist-ga on 08 Jul 2003 14:48 PDT
 
Thank you for your rating, comments and added generosity!  I'm
delighted you are pleased.  :)

Best regards,
journalist-ga

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