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Pharmacy degree
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: may37-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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28 Oct 2002 14:18 PST
Expires: 27 Nov 2002 14:18 PST Question ID: 91383 |
I have a Ph.D. degree in Biochemistry. I am thinking about getting a Pharm D. degree and work as a Pharmacist instead, because I believe it will be less stressful, more easier to find a job, and the working hours are more flexible. Am I right? I am wondering what is the best way to go about this, considering I am working right now. Is there night programs or online programs that offer Pharm D. degrees? Or I will have to quit work and study full time for two years. I think since I have a Ph.D. degree in Biochemistry, perhaps there are some classes that I can skip, is that a possibility? And finally, I would like to know the salary range for Pharmacist? |
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Re: Pharmacy degree
Answered By: journalist-ga on 28 Oct 2002 15:42 PST |
Greetings! I do not know what you consider "stress" in an occupation, but being a pharmacist in today's market can be very stressful. An article from The Pharmacist (Vol 4 Number 4 June 2000) located at http://www.apesma.asn.au/professions/pharmacists/june_2000/pharmacists_news_june_2000.htm#STRESS states: "Pharmacists are no strangers to dealing with stress in the workplace. You know how it goes the telephone is ringing, two customers want to speak to you, there are five prescriptions to be finished and the printer connected to your dispensing system has packed up! While we tend to accept this level of stress at work, there may be long-term effects." My oldest and dearest friend is a pharmacist and I have had the opportunity to know about her occupation. The above scenario pales in comparison to what she has described to me about her job - she's a Superwoman! In addition to the above, it may be that two people are waiting for flu shots (pushed by corporate because of the extra revenue it brings in), a short inventory is due, a customer wants to pay for some purchases that are in the over-the-counter section but they aren't waiting for a prescription and, if it is the first of the month, there can be a two-day backlog of prescriptions as many government checks appear in customer's mailboxes at that time and they have the money for the prescriptions. From http://www.pharmacy.ca.gov : "Good technicians decrease pharmacist's stress" and my friend would tell you that as well. It is a very hectic profession and far from the "old days" when pharmacies were self-owned. It's a corporate business now just like most everything. In addition, the pharmacist is the insurance monitor at most pharmacies so all those insurance things have to be done. My friend works, on average, about 55 hours a week (plus she has to go out-of-state frequently for continuing education seminars). Flexibility of working hours is possible. With my friend's job, she works for a major supermarket chain and sometimes mans other pharmacy counters in other towns in the chain stores. She and the other pharmacists do switch around scheduling a lot so there is flexibility. And she gets overtime so she really rakes it in when she works extra hours. RPh on the Go (http://www.rphonthego.com/newfiles/employees.html) states "Looking for the job of your dreams? A job where you'll get the respect, compensation, and benefits you deserve? A job that lets you choose when, where, and how much you want to work? A job that gives you the flexibility you need to have a high-power career and a fulfilling personal life? Then let RPh on the Go find it for you! "For 22 years, RPh on the Go has placed hundreds of pharmacists in leading pharmacies across the country. Now let us do the same for you. We'll do everything we can to make sure you get a job that accommodates your individual lifestyle, provides you with a competitive salary, and offers you great benefits" Regarding salaries, the site Allied Physicians (http://www.allied-physicians.com/salary_surveys/pharmacy-salaries.htm) reports salaries as follows (the first figue in each is Average base and the second is Average Starting Base): Total (National Avg.) $68,000 $59,000 Chains $66,500 $57,000 Independents $58,000 $49,000 Supermarkets $66,000 $57,000 Merchandisers $67,000 $58,000 HMOs $73,000 $61,000 Hospitals $65,000 $49,500 There is a regional breakdown posted in the same article and they also report: "Salaries are most dependent on location, job description, training, and experience of each pharmacist. Studies show the need for pharmacists and pharmacy technicians will continue to raise for a minimum of 5 years. "Studies indicate that hospital, independent, and chain store employment growth will occur slowly. However, admissions and graduates in pharmacy have been decreasing over recent years. It appears that long-term, ambulatory, and home care settings will show the greatest employment growth. New opportunities are also arising in managed care organizations and, for those employed in research, disease management." Concerning courses for a degree, this would depend on the course you already have so it's an area in which you would need to make personal inquiries. I discovered a few possibilities for your perusal: University of Colorado School of Pharmacy "The University of Colorado School of Pharmacy offers the Doctor of Pharmacy (Pharm.D.) degree for working pharmacists in a part-time format. All courses are delivered online, via the Internet. Online courses provide maximal accessibility and flexibility to working pharmacists, and provide opportnities for interactivity with the faculty and with the other pharmacists in the program, and for active participation in learning. Clerkship experiences are also very flexible. Some clerkships can be challenged for academic credit based on your experiences as a pharmacist. Others are available part time, or can be performed where you work. (See "Clerkships" for more information.)" http://www.uchsc.edu/sp/sp/programs/ntpharmd.html Duquesne University "The Mylan School of Pharmacy at Duquesne University first began offering the post-baccalaureate Doctor of Pharmacy degree in 1968. In its efforts to meet the needs of the pharmacy profession, in 1998 the School initiated the non-traditional Pharm.D. to enable practicing pharmacists to earn the degree. Innovative technologies have enabled the Pharm.D. to be earned utilizing online learning. Practitioners can complete the degree without extensive travel to attend on-campus classes. " http://www.pharmacy.duq.edu/programs/nontrad.html Bernard J. Dunn School of Pharmacy at Shenandoah University "The Shenandoah University School of Pharmacy Non-traditional Doctor of Pharmacy (NTDP) program utilizes much of the innovative information technology that is woven throughout the traditional Doctor of Pharmacy program to enhance the efficiency and effectiveness of the pharmacist as a decision maker. The technology also serves to deliver educational content to you, the learner, when and where he/she would like to receive it. In addition to extensive use of the Internet, the program provides educational support to create an information rich learning environment. Each pharmacist is assigned a resource team consisting of a full-time pharmacy faculty member, a computer support technician and an information manager. In addition, learners interact weekly with pharmacy faculty and other learners through a creative mix of synchronous (real-time) and asynchronous (threaded) computer conferencing. The only thing missing is the inconvenience of traveling long distances to a traditional campus." http://204.154.86.6/PharmWeb/Hier/index.cfm Of the above listings, the last two were from a site titled "Jonnie's Distance Learning Page : Doctor of Pharmacy Programs in USA" located at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Haven/2386/dlpharmd.html. I chose two samples that specifically stated "online" but it seems all the listings are distance learning so I would suggest you check the page for more information. I suggest you also look at the site PharmJobCatalyst at http://www.pharmjobcatalyst.com/students/studentjobs_st.pharm to learn more about what to do when you have or are close to having your Pharm degree. As far as any classes you can skip, I would think this is a distinct possibility but you would need to query the universities with a copy of your transcript to see what would apply in each program. I hope this information is of assistance in your quest and if you need further clarification before rating my answer, please request it and I'll be happy to conduct further research in this area. SEARCH TERMS: pharmacist salary ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=pharmacist+salary pharmacist stress ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=pharmacist+stress finding a job as pharmacist ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=finding+a+job+as+pharmacist flexibility on the job pharmacist ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=flexibility+on+the+job+pharmacist Pharm D online university ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Pharm+D+online+university |
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Re: Pharmacy degree
From: jcg-ga on 28 Oct 2002 18:00 PST |
Dear Perplexed, I have a PhD in Physiology & Biophysics (1979). When I was in school, academia was the only "acceptable" track. I wound up bucking the system after 2 years in academia (grant money was almost impossible to come by) and have had an extremely rewarding career in drug development. I started on the preclinical discovery side and moved to clinical (human testing programs) in 1989 and then general management roles beginning in 1997. I love the mix of science, medicine and business. My message to you is to not look so narrowly. There are MANY careers for someone with a PhD in Biochemistry and a lot of them pay better than a pharmacist. Do more homework before you sign up for something as big as a Pharm D program. You may end up working in patent law, venture capital or manufacturing scale-up. Why not get a little experience on the industry side first so you can begin to get a broader idea of your options? Some companies like Genetech even offer post-docs. Good luck. JCG |
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Re: Pharmacy degree
From: aacp-ga on 11 Nov 2002 12:33 PST |
TO: JCG FROM: Libby Ross, MA Director of PharmCAS and Student Affairs American Association of College of Pharmacy (AACP) ----------- DEMAND FOR PHARMACISTS There has never been a better time for you to consider a rewarding career in pharmacy. The demand for trained pharmacy professionals has grown rapidly in recent years due the rapid growth of the health care and pharmaceutical industries, especially for the growing elderly population. The number of pharmacists in health care services is also increasing as pharmacists become more actively involved in drug therapy decision-making for patients of all ages. Two recent reports have documented the shortage of pharmacists nationwide. 1) Pharmacy Manpower Project, NEWS RELEASE - October 7, 2002 "Dramatic Rise in Need for Pharmacists Projected" http://www.aacp.org/site/tertiary.asp?TRACKID=&VID=2&CID=577&DID=4638 2) December 2000 HHS Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA) The Pharmacy Workforce: A Study of the Supply and Demand for Pharmacists. http://bhpr.hrsa.gov/oldhealthworkforce/pharmacist.html Both reports conclude there is an increasing demand for pharmacists' service that is outpacing the current and possibly future pharmacist supply. This conclusion is based partially on the growth of vacant positions across the entire range of pharmacy practice sites. Both reports cite an unprecedented demand for pharmacists and for pharmaceutical care services, which has not been met by the currently available supply. The factors causing the shortage are not likely to abate in the near future. ---------------- NON-TRADITIONAL (DISTANCE) PHARMACY PROGRAMS The individual who first responded to your inquiry provided some very valuable information regarding pharmacy education and careers. Unfortunately, the information regarding non-traditional pharmacy degree programs was misleading. The Pharm.D. degree program requires at least 2-years of specific pre-professional (undergraduate) coursework followed by 4-academic years (or 3-calendar years) of professional study. The majority of students enter a pharmacy program with 3 or more years of college experience. College graduates who enroll in a pharmacy program must complete the full 4-academic years (or 3-calendar) years of professional study to earn the Pharm.D. degree. Pharmacy schools do not typically offer accelerated programs of study for individuals with a baccalaureate or advanced degree in a related health career or science field. Currently, most non-traditional (distance-learning) pharmacy programs are designed for B.S. of pharmacy graduates (practicing pharmacists) who wish to return to school to earn a Pharm.D. degree so they may enhance their skills. The web-based programs listed in the first response to your question are intended for such pharmacists. For entry-level Pharm.D. degree candidates such as yourself, colleges and schools of pharmacy usually require 4 years of full-time/in-class professional study (or three years of year-round study without summer term breaks). Creighton University is the only institution to offer an on-line program for entry level candidates. For more information about the program, please visit the Creighton web site at http://pharmacy.creighton.edu/spahp/non_traditional/rx/async_overview.asp For a list of colleges and schools of pharmacy by state, please visit the AACP web site at www.aacp.org --------------- ADMISSION REQUIREMENTS Although you have previously completed an advanced degree, you may need to complete some additional coursework to be eligible for admission to a Pharm.D degree program. Some pharmacy colleges and schools may require prerequisite courses that you did not complete as an undergraduate or graduate student. Pharmacy admissions offices often require that science and math course work must be less than 3-10 years old, depending on institutional policy. Institutions may also require you to submit scores for the Pharmacy College Admission Test (PCAT). Approximately half of all pharmacy degree programs require the PCAT for admission. The classes required for admission into a pharmacy program vary significantly from one institution to the next. Due to the variations in admission requirements and procedures among the colleges and schools of pharmacy, it is advisable to research different pharmacy programs. The pharmacy programs will be pleased to supply details concerning admission procedures or curriculum. School specific information is also available in the AACP publication, "Pharmacy School Admission Requirements" (PSAR). The on-line version of the PSAR is available for free on the AACP web site. Copy and past the link below - http://www.aacp.org/site/page.asp?TRACKID=&VID=1&CID=130&DID=3140 ---------------------- ROLE OF A PHARMACIST Pharmacy is a licensed health profession in which pharmacists provide information regarding medication to consumers and health care professionals. Pharmacists are "medication experts", concerned with disease state management and safe guarding the public's health in matters relating to medication distribution and use. Pharmacists play a vital role in the health care system through the medicine and information they provide. While responsibilities vary among the different areas of pharmacy practice, the bottom line is that pharmacists help patients get well. Pharmacist responsibilities include a range of care for patients, from dispensing medications to monitoring patient health and progress to maximize their response to the medication. Pharmacists also educate consumers and patients on the use of prescriptions and over-the-counter medications, and advise physicians, nurses, and other health professionals on drug decisions. Pharmacists also provide expertise about the composition of drugs, including their chemical, biological, and physical properties and their manufacture and use. They ensure drug purity and strength and make sure that drugs do not interact in a harmful way. Pharmacists are drug experts ultimately concerned about their patients' health and wellness. The principal goal of pharmaceutical care is to achieve positive outcomes from the use of medication which improves patients' quality of life with minimum risk. Pharmacists strive to - Cure disease - Eliminate or reduce symptoms - Arrest or slow a disease process - Prevent disease; - Diagnose disease; and - Alter physiological processes for desirable result in the patient's health. Pharmacists are professionals, uniquely prepared and available, committed to public service and to the achievement of this goal. -------------- Best wishes in your educational and professional endeavors. ---------------------------- Elisabeth J. "Libby" Ross, M.A. Director, PharmCAS and Student Affairs American Association of Colleges of Pharmacy 1426 Prince Street Alexandria, VA 22314 lross@aacp.org www.aacp.org www.pharmcas.org |
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