Hardware:  IMac running OS8.6, PC running Win98FE, Dlink 614+ wireless
router, and 3Com cable modem.

Issue: IMac is currently running the internet through the cable modem
with Charter Communications service.  Then I insert the Dlink router
into the loop. After I get it hooked up, here is how the network is
set up:

                                                    IMac w/intern.NIC
cable internet                                      /
 coming in     -->3Com cable modem-->Dlink Router--/
                                                   \
                                                  PC w/wireless NIC

Ok, PC with wireless NIC is able to access the router's admin panel
through internal network IP (192.168.0.1)and is able to see the
internet after the initial setup of the router.
 But the IMac is unable to even see the Dlink router(again, through
192.168.0.1).  I am using
IMac's internal network interface card with TCP/IP setup connecting
through DHCP
(which is what the DLink router is using).  We originally had some
issues with hardware addresses, and apparently solved that because the
PC is seeing everything just fine, but IMac is not.

Question: what do I need to do to get my IMac to  1)see the Dlink
router, and  2)see the internet through the router?

Thank you in advance for you help.

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Request for Question Clarification by funkywizard-ga on 07 Nov 2002 06:17 PST

Does your imac sucessfully get an ip address upon requesting a dhcp
lease? if so, what ip address is it assigned? can you ping the pc from
the mac?

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Clarification of Question by bryanz-ga on 07 Nov 2002 12:42 PST

1) no, there is no IP address that shows on the IMac on the dhcp
lease.

2) I did not try the ping to the pc (but that is very good advice, but
I am not totally sure how to ping on a mac.)

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Request for Question Clarification by funkywizard-ga on 07 Nov 2002 14:20 PST

i must say that if you cannot get an ip address, you wont get very
far. what i would suggest is looking at the ip address and subnet mask
of the pc that is working (probably listed as 192.168.0.2 and
255.255.0.0 or 255.255.255.0) And change the mac settings to have
192.168.0.*, where star is a number not currently being used, and a
subnet mask that is identical to the pc. This would be instead of
using dhcp. Then, since you don't know how to ping on a mac (I don't
either), try pinging the mac from the pc (this should be easier). If
this works, you are at least halfway there to solving your problem.

Hello Bryanz,

As previously noted, each machine needs to have a unique address in
your local network. What I can suggest is based on the set up in my
home. I have a variety of PC's and Mac's in my home with something
similar to....

Toshiba Router at 192.168.0.1, connected to my ISP via ISDN.

iMac at 192.168.0.2 via DHCP [but could be fixed]

PC at 192.168.0.3 (ditto)

another guest machine (PC or Mac laptop) at 192.168.0.4,

and so on. This is a pretty typical set up and sounds similar to what
you have at your home.

On the Mac, I suggest TCP/IP settings such as...
  Connect via Ethernet
  Configure Using DHCP server
  (remaining fields blank)
for the automatic settings, or for manual settings use...
  Connect via Ethernet
  Configure Manually
  IP Address 192.168.0.2 (or whatever you selected)
  Subnet Address 255.255.255.0
  Router Address 192.168.0.1 (the IP address of the router)
  Name Server Address (the IP address of the name server)
  Implicit Search Path (generally the name of your ISP)
  Ending Domain Name (usually blank)
  Additional Search Domains (usually blank)
In the case of automatic settings, the IP address and other values
should be set for you. If not, use the values identified above. In
each try, save the configuration and quit the TCP/IP control panel
before running any tests.

To test your connections, I suggest using application such as "MacTCP
Watcher". There is a list of good TCP tools at
  http://www.macintoshos.com/shareware.library/internet/mactcp.utilities.shtml
It allows you to check the settings of TCP/IP, ping other machines,
check routs to remote servers (trace route) as well as look up host
names. MacTCP Monitor is helpful if you want to see the amount of
network traffic you have. If you want to use these before getting the
router figured out, hook up the iMac as you had it originally to
download the files and then set it up with the router to debug your
set up.

Now having said that, there may be some further issues to resolve. I
assume the router is set up properly for Network Address Translation
(NAT) and would be providing IP addresses and other settings via DHCP.
In that case, I suggest the "Configure with DHCP" setting in TCP/IP
first (with all other fields blank) and add fields as necessary to
match the values set on your PC. If this does not work, please use a
clarification request to list the settings on the iMac, PC, and router
so I can check further in the product manual to give you better
suggestions.

For more information or reference...

Toshiba DL-614+
http://www.dlink.com/products/digitalHome/wireless/11b+/di614+/

Appletalk and TCP/IP settings (for a university)
http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/tvp/ars/eaglenet/mac_network_cp.shtml
http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/using/computing/macethernet.html

Apple Knowledge Base
Setting up an Airport Base Station (and Macintosh)
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58576
(has some suggestions that may be relevant to your router settings)

A search using a phrase such as
  Ethernet Macintosh TCP/IP Control Panel
will find a large number of helpful documents, though most are
relevant to colleges or universities.

  --Maniac

In depth answer, great information, and I was able to easily set up my
network after obtaining the information.  Thank you and keep up the
great work.