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Subject: Mirrors
Category: Science > Physics
Asked by: dsconrad-ga
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Posted: 09 Nov 2002 12:52 PST
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Question ID: 104227
Why is it when you hold writing up to a mirror it is written backwards?

Request for Question Clarification by gan-ga on 09 Nov 2002 13:05 PST
Hi dsconrad-ga,

At first it may seem a simple question of physics; of the virtual
image produced behind the mirror being 'reversed' due to the laws of
reflection which state that the angle of reflection of a light ray is
equal to it's angle of incidence upon a reflective surface. However, a
quick look at:

What Mirrors Do
http://www.mathpages.com/home/kmath142.htm

reveals a deeper dimension to the question!

I'm sure a researcher more eloquent in the discussion of mathematics
and philosophy would enlighten you more than I...

Best regards

gan

Request for Question Clarification by feilong-ga on 09 Nov 2002 14:28 PST
Is there another way to rephrase your question or could you make your
question clearer? I'm asking because there's a chance that we might be
misinterpreting it.
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Subject: Re: Mirrors
From: pinkfreud-ga on 09 Nov 2002 13:17 PST
 
I highly recommend Martin Gardner's "The New Ambidextrous Universe,"
which discusses mirror reversals in fascinating detail.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0716720930/qid=/sr=/ref=cm_lm_asin/103-6563336-1197417?v=glance
Subject: Re: Mirrors
From: carnegie-ga on 09 Nov 2002 18:25 PST
 
Dear Dsconrad,

Your deceptively simple question requires a very long answer, so I'll
refer you to the sources that have already been quoted.  But I'll give
you a few pointers to help.

By "written backwards" you mean reversed left-to-right, right?  Well,
the first point to notice is that the mirror didn't do this - _you_
did, when you turned the writing around to face the mirror!  What the
mirror did was to reverse the scene from front to back.  To understand
this, notice that the writing you are holding up to the mirror is in
reality invisible, since it is now on the far side of the paper.  What
the mirror has done is pull the writing through the paper from the
back to the front so that it is now visible from the front.  But it
hasn't changed the writing at all: the bit in your left hand (the end
of the writing) is still on the left, and the bit in your right hand
(the beginning of the writing) is still on the right - nothing has
changed.  What has changed, of course, is that, having been pulled
through the paper like this, the writing is indeed enantiomorphic and
therefore unreadable.

You will find all this easier to investigate and understand if you try
the problem with a three-dimensional object instead of a
two-dimensional one.  More simply, just put the writing on a
transparent medium such as glass or cellophane.  Hold the writing up
to the mirror in the same way as you did before.  Watch yourself
create the reversal as you turn the sheet to face the mirror.  As you
look at the mirror image, look also at the original in your hands, now
visible through the back of the sheet.  It, too, is "reversed" in just
the same way; in fact, the original and the image are exact copies,
point for point, over their whole extent.

Even better, try holding up this sheet to the mirror without first
turning it around to face the mirror.  What can you see on the sheet
itself?  It looks normal, of course, as you are now looking at its
front.  And what do you see in the mirror?  Why, the image is normal
too!  As before, there has been no reversal.  (I bet you won't believe
this last example until you try it!)

You can look at the problem a different way.  If mirrors reversed from
left to right, they would need to know which way was horizontal, and
vertically-mounted mirrors don't.  If you bought a rectangular mirror
for your home, you would need to specify whether you wanted to hang it
in portrait or landscape orientation, and you would get some very
curious effects if you hung it the wrong way.  All this doesn't
happen, of course.  No: the only direction a mirror knows about (and
this is true for any flat surface) is the direction _perpendicular_ to
its plane, and this is the only direction along which it could
possibly reverse anything.  And that's exactly what it does.

Final hint: this is a complex issue of three-dimensional
understanding, so don't expect to grasp everything at a first reading
or first experimentation.  Persevere and it will all suddenly become
clear.

I trust this helps.

Carnegie
Subject: Re: Mirrors
From: alan0-ga on 11 Nov 2002 10:51 PST
 
Carnegie, I agree with your comments. 

I have been asked before why a mirror swaps over left and right but
does not swap over up and down. The answer I have always given is that
Left and Right are defined in relation to you (look at a keep fit
instructor facing you and telling you to lift up your left arm whilst
they lift up their right arm) whereas top and bottom are defined in
relation to gravity or the floor/ceiling. As you say nothing has
changed - just your perception or definition of it.
Subject: Re: Mirrors
From: agawlbb-ga on 12 Nov 2002 18:33 PST
 
alan0:

I would asume the mirror would also reverse left to right but not up
and down in a spaceship in orbit where there is no differnce between
the floor, the ceiling, and any other wall.  What is up and down in
relationship to in this case?
Subject: Re: Mirrors
From: dacs-ga on 13 Nov 2002 06:02 PST
 
alan0: It all depends on the reference frame. Here in earth, we all
associate "up" and "down" in the same direction because we are stuck
at the surface by the gravitational pull and I guess most, if not all,
humans walk and live their lives upright.
However in space, there is no gravity so facing a man upside down
there will make "up" and "down" (assuming the up is what's your head
is pointing) opposite in direction relative to those two persons.
It is also the same why the person's left in front of you is your
right.
So the it really depends on the person concerned. Reference frame.

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