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Subject:
Radiation Detectors
Category: Science Asked by: markbyrn-ga List Price: $25.00 |
Posted:
11 Nov 2002 16:09 PST
Expires: 12 Nov 2002 18:32 PST Question ID: 105651 |
I'm going to be living near a nuclear power plant, and was interested in obtaining a radiation detector. In searching around, I've come across three possible devices - Raditect, GM-10, or GM-45 Geiger Counter / Radiation Detector and Software. I'd like a detailed analysis of these devices, the science behind these devices (in english), and their actual utility, especially in respect to detecting leakage from a nuclear power plant. Which one would you recommend, or is there another device (less than $300) that might be better? Assuming I purchased one of the detectors, at what level of radiation exposure would I need to be concerned for possible effects to health? I've already read the information from the respective websites that sell these devices - don't cut and paste; I need somebody who has actual scientific expertise in this area to answer. Comments are otherwise welcome. |
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Re: Radiation Detectors
From: unstable-ga on 11 Nov 2002 18:19 PST |
markbyrn, just some comments for your consideration. Radiation exposure is dependent on distance, time and whether you have shielding or not. took a quick look at the 3 products specs you mentioned. Raditec is handy-dandy but can only detect 1 form of radiation which is gamma. While GM-45 can detect alpha, beta, gamma and x-ray (no point considering GM-10 since you have GM-45 in your sights, GM-45 advantage over GM-10 is that it has a wider detection window i.e. it is more likely to pick up radioactive signals as compared to GM-10). The effective window for Raditec is also very small about 4.83mm diameter compared to GM-45's 44.5mm diameter. Please note such detectors are only effective if the window is pointed to the source of radiation. Also Raditec is a generic (i.e. SHD device - See-here-dummy), the sensitivity setting is controlled by the manufacturer, with pre-set alarm levels. While this is good for generic purposes, it might not be okay for folks living around nuclear plants as your ambient radiation level is likely to be higher than other places (higher does not neccessarily mean that it is too dangerous) but am not too sure how the raditec would behave, i.e. it might keep reporting certain levels of radiation that you might get too concerned or worse you get too tuned to its constant beeping that you might ignore it later. The other advantage of GM-45 is that it would be able to give quantitative figures which you could then use to take issue with whatever authorities i.e. you have a measurement that you could argue with other folks about. the obvious disadvantage of GM-45 is that you have to learn a little bit more to use it effectively otherwise there would be features in them that you paid for that you will never use. I am not sure you really need a geiger counter (which in my opinion sometimes create more fear than neccessary for the uninitiated, i.e. the constant cackling can sometimes get on people's nerve). I think there might be other more suitable solutions for people living around the N-plants, I thought it would be the responsibility of the N-plant company to ensure the safety of folks living near to them (i.e. within a specific distance where you are at high risk if their safety measures and facilities fail to contain any nuclear mishaps) - i would have thought the authorities would require some form of alarm system to be installed such that all families can be quickly informed of pending disaster. Regular independent safety checks of N-plants facilities is compulsory and i strongly believe that you should gather the community of folks around the area to insist that authorities ensure this is carried out and the reports made public to the community. having detectors in home does not cut it really, i.e. by the time the detectors scream, the radiation is already at your home, could be a little too late then. I personally don't see a point in spending money to buy some form of false security. |
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Re: Radiation Detectors
From: hedgie-ga on 11 Nov 2002 22:34 PST |
I would suggest as a search term "Personal dosimeter" Often this is a strip of film (which personnel wears in a badge), which is evaluated from time to time and dose is compared to health standards. I would talk to the PR people at your plant (plant provides this service to their personnel) but there are independent labs running this service e.g. for medical workers. Without such a service you would have to study health standards (safe exposure) and dosimetry yourself. There also are 'alarming dosimeters' . You may inspect the directory http://dmoz.org/Science/Instruments_and_Supplies/Radiation_Measurement/Monitors_and_Dosimeters/ for example http://www.LaurusSystems.com/products/Dosimeters_and_Readers.htm which shows variety of products. |
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Re: Radiation Detectors
From: iang-ga on 12 Nov 2002 05:03 PST |
I agree with hedgie-ga's comment about talking to the plant's PR people. However, it's unlikely they'll offer anything very practical since that could be seen as admitting there's a real risk. I work with a number of ex BNFL (British Nuclear Fuels) people, and they point out that their maximum annual dosage was about a 10th of what they'd get on a single trans-atlantic flight! Ian G. |
Subject:
Re: Radiation Detectors
From: neilzero-ga on 12 Nov 2002 08:29 PST |
No detector (especially the raditect) for under $300 is worth much unless you understand the details, so you are on the right track finding out more. At best the count is only a rough estimate of the hazzard. You can try the detector in various locations, to learn the typical count. If it doubles, mild concern is in order. Neil |
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Re: Radiation Detectors
From: qed100-ga on 12 Nov 2002 13:58 PST |
In my opinion, it'd be more prudent to establish the risk due to radiation before moving into the neighborhood. In the unlikely event that there is a radiological disaster, if you detect lethal levels at your home, it'll be too late. |
Subject:
Re: Radiation Detectors
From: nellie_bly-ga on 12 Nov 2002 17:04 PST |
There is a special section in local telephone directories in areas around nuclear power plants with quite a bit of information including evacuation plans. There are alarm sirens installed throughout a 10-mile perimeter of nuclear plants. Perhaps the most realistic precaution a civilian can take is to have potassium iodide on hand for you and your family. See www.ki4u.com |
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