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Variable power rated Microwave Ovens
Category: Science > Physics Asked by: jon19-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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13 Nov 2002 09:58 PST
Expires: 13 Dec 2002 09:58 PST Question ID: 106960 |
In order to determine the initial current demand of variable rated Microwave Ovens I would like to know how such ovens achieve their different power levels. If, as I suspect, it is by reducing the voltage pulse width this may reduce the energy level but will it reduce the instantaneous current surge at 'switch on' and hence overcome the circuit breker tripping problem I am experiencing? I would appreciate your comments. Many thanks | |
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Re: Variable power rated Microwave Ovens
From: holmes4-ga on 13 Nov 2002 13:50 PST |
Every microwave oven I have seen implements the power level by varying the duty cycle of the magnetron. For example, a power level of 30% would mean that the magnetron is on, full power, for 30% of the time, and off for 70% of the time. You can observe this yourself - the sound usually changes when the magnetron switches on and off. You can sometimes see it in the appearance of the food as well, such as bubbling when the power is on, and nothing when it's off. |
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Re: Variable power rated Microwave Ovens
From: holmes4-ga on 13 Nov 2002 13:52 PST |
Oh, I should also add that the "rating" of microwave ovens isn't the AC power consumption, but rather some measure of emitted microwave energy. There is also not a universal standard for how this is measured - over the years, ratings have edged up in a sort of "grade inflation". The surge current is likely to be quite a bit higher than the rated draw. |
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Re: Variable power rated Microwave Ovens
From: haversian-ga on 13 Nov 2002 14:39 PST |
Right - you have to look at the sticker on the back of your appliance to get the total wattage or current draw, which includes power for cooling, a turntable, electronics, etc. |
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Re: Variable power rated Microwave Ovens
From: haversian-ga on 15 Nov 2002 03:14 PST |
If you need all the microwaves on at the same time (at high power), I suspect your only recourse is writing a check to an electrician, or using extension cords to access multiple circuits. If you only need 30% power levels, you may have success staggering start times so the 30% duty cycles of 3 ovens don't overlap. You are correct that the startup current draw may be much higher than the standard rating (my laser printer, for example, draws over 1000W for 20ms at startup), though this may or may not be your problem. Have you tried starting the ovens at full power a few seconds apart? Is it only the startup current draw, or does full operating power cause the breaker to trip? You just posted a pretty long reply which I appreciate, but if you could describe your situation more fully, someone might be able to help you with a "thinking outside the box" style solution. What circuits are available? Why do the ovens need to start simultaneously? What is your budget for this fix? Anything else you think might be pertinent? Otherwise, if the ovens need to startup at the same time, you will have to find some way to provide them with that much power... |
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Re: Variable power rated Microwave Ovens
From: alan0-ga on 15 Nov 2002 04:17 PST |
If the problem is to do with the surge on startup why not use a different circuit breaker - and I do not mean one for a higher current but one that will not trip on a surge lasting x ms. I had a similar problem with Halogen lights on a transformer which surge on startup and trip the breaker. One solution was to use a different circuit breaker - which would not trip on startup but would trip on a short circuit. The difference is how long the surge is allowed to take place for before it trips. See http://us.binnacle.com/online/specs/bluesea/blueseafaq3.asp for some theory Then it is probably over to an electrician for the work. |
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