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motivation, addiction, and social anxiety
Category: Health Asked by: azl42-ga List Price: $15.00 |
Posted:
17 Nov 2002 02:43 PST
Expires: 17 Dec 2002 02:43 PST Question ID: 109260 |
Im looking for advice regarding motivation, addiction, and social anxiety as applied to me. Therefore I will provide the following background information that I feel is relevant. I am 19, male, a college junior, living alone off-campus, studying Computer Science. I have long had mild social anxiety (my anxiety being a function of the number of people present and how well I know them). I am exceptionally bright (IQ~130, SATs 1500 to quantify it). I also have a tendency to get addicted to things for short(short in days but not in hours) periods of time (things being television, computer games, programming, etc.). I have not gotten addicted to anything harmful but it may be notable that my father was an alcoholic (who admirably hasnt touched a drink in 18 years). I find it easy to preemptively avoid addictive behavior (like by not owning a television) but hard to stop once I started (an example of which being I decided to read for a little while this afternoon to take a brief break from work and did not stop my break until I finished the book slightly after when I normal go to bed). I often have difficulty motivating myself to do school work. I believe my lack of motivation/procrastination is encouraged by my abilities to learn months of class work the night before a deadline or exam (I do well with independent study and strict and frequent deadlines .unfortunately I have been hard pressed to find independent study programs that feature deadlines, none surely with deadlines that would make me have to work consistently). In high school, I knew all my classmates (all 40 of them) so social anxiety was rarely a problem. The material in high school was easy enough that my procrastination never caught up with me and left me plenty of time for me to be addicted to innocuous things. Now in college I face large groups of people I dont know frequently (my class size being raised from 40 to 10,000). I still, as of yet, have not been punished by a course for my procrastination although I feel I will soon meet my match. I also have been having doubts about my major (loving programming but not logic) which hasnt helped on the motivational front. Hence, I have been experiencing more inner conflict as of late. I seek help to motivating myself; to avoid addiction in the moment and to feel comfortable in situations that would raise my social anxiety. Knowing from past successful dieting, I tend to react well to discrete monitoring of related factors (in that case merely recording daily weight and exercise in excel spreadsheets and charts). I have considered writing a program to monitor my general activities, but my initial attempts at writing the program alternatively met with addictive concentration or procrastination, hence to produce my solution I had to solve my problem first, a paradox I havent remedied. In your answer I look for your advice rather than links to pure information (as it is hard to filter information regarding oneself without either falling prey to denial or to falsely apply symptoms to yourself upon reading them a man who is his on psychologist is more a fool then the proverbial lawyer). Whether my problems sound serious enough to warrant seeking a psychologist or that a different forum would be better to voice these concerns in, may be part of your answer. |
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Re: motivation, addiction, and social anxiety
Answered By: haversian-ga on 17 Nov 2002 04:57 PST Rated: |
You're describing me (a few years ago)! While I can't be said to have "solved" the problem, I do have some hopefully helpful suggestions for you. First off, about once a month go do something completely out of character. You might find something you actually like, and the worst that will happen is that you will waste your time and not have fun but it sounds like you're having a hard time being productive anyway, so this won't be much of a loss! One of the hard parts about breaking a habit like this is that your behavior patterns are reinforced by the few people you do know fairly well, so throwing yourself in an unfamiliar situation, with unfamiliar people, can be liberating. It's also a little scary, and most of the time isn't fun but you'll surprise yourself at least once. Order something you wouldn't dream of at a restaurant. Go to a club (I'm back from my first club experience - still buzzing from second-hand nicotine and THC). Pick a random campus event and go say hi. Be friendly. It will be forced and people will probably notice there's something a little off about you, but keep at it. If things go badly, remember that nobody there knows you and you can try something else later. Take an acting class. Second, figure out what motivates you. For me, using something I dread doing as a motivator is sometimes effective - by putting off the horrible thing, I assuage my procrastinating side, and can usually force myself to do something else I need to get done in lieu of that. Schedule your assignments and whatnot so you have deadlines a few days apart to minimize the problem of not being able to get 2 big projects done at the last minute. Third, interrupt yourself. If you have a habit of banging on something until it's done, set a timer. If you've got a palm pilot, there's an application called Big Clock (IMHO one of the best-designed Palm app UIs I've seen) that you can set to beep in 10 minutes. And 10 minutes later. And 10 minutes later. And 10 minutes later. Fourth, cultivate friendships. If you don't make friends quickly, you won't have very many casual friends. But that certainly does not mean you cannot have a few very close friends. Ask some of your more outgoing friends to take you places (see suggestion 1). (I can add more suggestions if you would like, but I think these are plenty to overwhelm you for a while. Ask if you need more!) Nth, be patient! You have spent 19 years becoming the person you are; do not expect to change in 19 days. If you're lucky you will see noticeable improvement in one area after 19 weeks. More likely, you will notice a year or two from now that you aren't the same person you were then and lots of things have changed. At 19, you're trying to figure out how to be an adult, and what adult to be - let that process work its magic but try to help it along by trying new things. And try to be happy. If you feel good spending 9 hours straight reading a novel then do that. Sure, it's reinforcing your addictive behavior but denying yourself all activities that take more than 2 hours will just make you a warped person - try to do your reading with the expectation that it will take 9 hours, and plan for it appropriately. These are, I suppose, fairly obvious suggestions. But take heart - they do work. -Haversian |
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Thanks for your suggestions; I was looking for an answer from someone in the mental health field rather than computers (as I judge your background is from what other questions you answer) but I was lucky and received that perspective in a comment. Thanks fsw and good luck funkywizard. |
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Re: motivation, addiction, and social anxiety
From: funkywizard-ga on 17 Nov 2002 04:12 PST |
I was intrigued by your question since I believe I share the majority of the traits you have described and am likely to quit college as a result of them. As such, I very much look forward to whatever answer researchers can find for you, and wish you the best of luck with your problem. |
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Re: motivation, addiction, and social anxiety
From: fsw-ga on 17 Nov 2002 07:30 PST |
Hi azl42, My background is in mental health, so your question was quite interesting to me. Your self-description doesn't sound like a young man with motivational problems. Someone who's accomplished as much as you have in 19 years is probably highly motivated! But I understand that perhaps you don't perceive yourself as motivated due to the procrastination issue. Your self-description doesn't sound like a major psychiatric disorder. And it doesn't sound like an addiction per se. It may be more helpful to consider your situation in terms of your possibly having certain personality traits. For example, what you describe as addictive behavior may actually be an avoidant or obsessive-compulsive personality trait. Many highly successful adults have these traits to some degree. But because you are experiencing more inner conflict as of late, you may want to consider seeing a psychologist. A psychologist may recommend psychological testing such as the MMPI (Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory). This test will suggest whether or not you have the traits mentioned above. If you do seek the services of a psychologist, you may want to consider someone who specializes in cognitive-behavioral therapy. I say this because you have identified the behavioral approach as successful in the past (dieting). But you impress me as being too introspective to be fully satisfied with pure behavior therapy alone, hence my suggestion that you consider the cognitive-behavioral perspective if you opt to see a therapist. Best wishes, fsw |
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Re: motivation, addiction, and social anxiety
From: caecias-ga on 18 Nov 2002 13:34 PST |
azl42-ga, I too, as well as many of my friends, have most of the traits that you have described. My group of friends are bright, graduated from college with computer science degrees, and also have both the short-term addiction you have described as well as the motivational problems. However, I don't think there is anything wrong with any of us. I would like to share some of the insights that I have gathered in my five years since graduating from college and going on to teach students like ourselves. First, everyone has the same motivational problems that you are describing. Each person must strive to put aside those things they would like to do right now and that have immediate benefits, and force themselves to do those things which are uncomfortable, and have long-term payoffs. Although it seems easy to everyone other than you, in actuality, each person is struggling to keep their priorities in order. Think about the number of people with Franklin Planners, and other organizational systems. If it was easy, there wouldn't be a market for such things. As to those people who really are on top of things, they simply have a better system in place than you do. They have the ability to visualize their long-term goals and to understand the benefits that their work will bring. They also better understand that there is a long-term discomfort involved in procrastination and a short-term discomfort involved in doing a task that needs to be done. I would like to tell you right now that it gets better after college. At a job you are responsible to someone other than yourself. You get quicker feedback in the form of praise or nasty e-mails, your work has obvious and immediate benefits, and you get to go home after work and in that way seperate your work from your home life. I do believe that if it was not for my procrastination, I would have received a higher GPA from college, but the fear you seem to have, and that I had at the time, that you will eventually receive your comeuppance, never materialized for me. I believe that breaking down a large assignment into much smaller, clearly defined, bite sized chunks, and giving yourself a deadline for each chuck would be a strategy that would help you. Before you allow yourself to play Vice City (or whatever you're currently entralled with) at night, require yourself to check your deadlines, and complete any tasks that you've given yourself. If you listen really hard, you'll be able to hear the same refrain across the entire campus; "God, I REALLY don't want to do this." Again, it will get easier after college, when the tasks have more meaning. In terms of social anxiety, this is also something that almost everyone experiences. I would much rather spend an evening with a few or one close friend, then the uncomfortable meeting of new people at a party. The obvious thoughts go through my head: what if I make a fool of myself, what if they think I'm an idiot, what if they simply don't like me, what if I'm actually a worthless human being and they all notice? The majority of this is simply a function of your self-confidence. Feel better about yourself, and you'll have less trouble meeting new people. I find it much easier to talk to someone when the focus isn't on me. For instance, how about asking someone from class to study with you? You won't be as worried about people judging you when you're focused on your work, plus, you'll have a definite date and time when you know you'll be working. Try meeting in the computer lab, where there will be fewer distractions. Try joining a basketball club, or LARPing, or whatever hobby you may have where the focus will be on a structured activity, and not on trotting out your life story, your major, where you went to high school, etc. Finally, your addictive personality. I'm not convinced you have a problem. What student wouldn't rather play five hours of Final Fantasy X rather than do a programming assignment? I also didn't watch TV for seven years while I went to college, and started a career. I found it impossible to turn off the TV once it was on. I now have a TV again, becuase I realized that if I didn't have the possibility of having my faced glued to the TV, I was unable to put down the book I was reading, or unable to get off the Internet. A large part of that was that I really enjoyed reading, and browsing the web, the other part is that I was avoiding doing other tasks that I should be doing. With no seperation between school and the rest of your life, there's always something you should be doing rather than playing. Another possible strategy might be to give yourself work hours. Tell yourself your work day starts at 8am, take an hour lunch, and don't go home until 5pm. Work on your homework in a lab, or a study hall or lounge. Then when you go home, put your work away for tomorrow, and give yourself permission to enjoy your evening. I hear what you're saying about inner conflict. Id, ego, and superego rarely have the same goals. You are only 19, and in a transitional place in your life. I certainly don't think that learning more about yourself by visiting a therapist would be a bad idea, everyone should do it at least once in their life, however I think a few books about fighting procrastination might also be helpful. I know this is a popular topic for self-help authors. Here's one on amazon you could start looking at: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0874775043/qid=1037654494/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/102-6966504-0174528?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 I want to let you know that it does get easier, but life is never effortless. I generally try to use this time after work to prep for the next day and grade papers, but I too am procrastinating in writing this response. It might be interesting to see if there are any studies of the kind of personalities that tend to be attracted to different majors. Let me know if I was helpful, or if I can be any more help. -Caecias |
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