Am looking for a list, preferably in English, of the aristocracy of
the French Second Empire (1858-1871) which can be as basic as to
include titles and who held them, with family name. Additional tip for
more - eg restored titles, old monarchial titles and how many of these
lines survived into the twentieth century

Here is a complete list of France's rules since 814

Later Carolingian Transition
  814 -   840   Louis I (not a king of 'France') 
  840 -   877   Charles II (the Bald) 
  877 -   879   Louis II (the Stammerer) 
  879 -   882   Louis III (joint with Carloman below) 
  879 -   884   Carloman (joint with Louis III above, until 882) 
  884 -   888   Charles the Fat
  888 -   898   Eudes (also Odo) of Paris (non-Carolingian) 
  898 -   922   Charles III (the Simple) 
  922 -   923   Robert I (non-Carolingian) 
  923 -   936   Raoul (also Rudolf, non-Carolingian) 
  936 -   954   Louis IV (d'Outremer or The Foreigner) 
  954 -   986   Lothar (also Lothaire) 
  986 -   987   Louis V (the Do-Nothing) 

Capetian Dynasty
  987 -   996  Hugh Capet
  996 - 1031   Robert II (the Pious) 
  1031 - 1060   Henry I
  1060 - 1108   Philip I
  1108 - 1137   Louis VI (the Fat) 
  1137 - 1180   Louis VII (the Young) 
  1180 - 1223   Philip II Augustus
  1223 - 1226   Louis VIII (the Lion) 
  1226 - 1270   Louis IX (St. Louis) 
  1270 - 1285   Philip III (the Bold) 
  1285 - 1314   Philip IV (the Fair) 
  1314 - 1316   Louis X (the Stubborn) 
  1316             John I
  1316 - 1322   Philip V (the Tall) 
  1322 - 1328   Charles IV (the Fair) 

Valois Dynasty
  1328 - 1350   Philip VI
  1350 - 1364   John II (the Good) 
  1364 - 1380   Charles V (the Wise) 
  1380 - 1422   Charles VI (the Mad, Well-Beloved, or Foolish) 
  1422 - 1461   Charles VII (the Well-Served or Victorious) 
  1461 - 1483   Louis XI (the Spider) 
  1483 - 1498   Charles VIII (Father of his People) 
  1498 - 1515   Louis XII
  1515 - 1547   Francis I
  1547 - 1559   Henry II
  1559 - 1560   Francis II
  1560 - 1574   Charles IX
  1574 - 1589   Henry III

Bourbon Dynasty
  1589 - 1610   Henry IV
  1610 - 1643   Louis XIII
  1643 - 1715   Louis XIV (the Sun King) 
  1715 - 1774   Louis XV
  1774 - 1792   Louis XVI

First Republic
  1792 - 1795   National Convention
  1795 - 1799   Directory (Directors) 
                1795 - 99 Paul François Jean Nicolas de Barras 
                1795 - 99 Jean-François Reubell 
                1795 - 99 Louis Marie La Revellíere-Lépeaux 
                1795 - 97 Lazare Nicolas Marguerite Carnot 
                1795 - 97 Etienne Le Tourneur 
                1797        François Marquis de Barthélemy 
                1797 - 99 Philippe Antoine Merlin de Douai
                1797 - 98 François de Neufchâteau 
                1798 - 99 Jean Baptiste Comte de Treilhard 
                1799        Emmanuel Joseph Comte de Sieyés
                1799        Roger Comte de Ducos 
                1799        Jean François Auguste Moulins 
                1799        Louis Gohier 
  1799 - 1804   Consulate
       1st Consul:  1799 - 1804 Napoleon Bonaparte 
       2nd Consul: 1799 Emmanuel Joseph Comte de Sieyés, 
                        1799 - 1804 Jean-Jacques Régis Cambacérès 
       3rd Consul:  1799 - 1799 Pierre-Roger Ducos 
                          1799 - 1804 Charles François Lebrun 

First Empire (emperors)
  1804 - 1814   Napoleon I 
  1814 - 1815   Louis XVIII (king) 
  1815             Napoleon I (2nd time) 

Bourbons (restored)
  1814 - 1824   Louis XVIII
  1824 - 1830   Charles X

Orleans
  1830 - 1848   Louis Philippe

Second Republic (presidents)
  1848             Louis Eugéne Cavaignac
  1848 - 1852   Louis Napoleon (later Napoleon III) 

Second Empire (emperors)
  1852 - 1870   (Louis) Napoleon III

Third Republic (presidents)
  1870 - 1871   Louis Jules Trochu (provisional) 
  1871 - 1873   Adolphe Thiers
  1873 - 1879   Patrice de MacMahon
  1879 - 1887   Jules Grévy
  1887 - 1894   Sadi Carnot
  1894 - 1895   Jean Casimir-Périer
  1895 - 1899   Félix Faure
  1899 - 1906   Emile Loubet
  1906 - 1913   Armand Fallières
  1913 - 1920   Raymond Poincaré 
  1920             Paul Deschanel
  1920 - 1924   Alexandre Millerand
  1924 - 1931   Gaston Doumergue
  1931 - 1932   Paul Doumer
  1932 - 1940   Albert Lebrun

Vichy Government (Chief of State)
  1940 - 1944   Henri Philippe Petain

Provisional Government (presidents)
  1944 - 1946   Charles de Gaulle
  1946             Félix Gouin 
  1946             Georges Bidault
  1946             Leon Blum

Fourth Republic (presidents)
  1947 - 1954   Vincent Auriol
  1954 - 1959   René Coty

Fifth Republic (presidents)
  1959 - 1969   Charles de Gaulle
  1969 - 1974   Georges Pompidou
  1974 - 1981   Valéry Giscard d'Estaing
  1981 - 1995   François Mitterand
  1995 - Today  Jacques Chirac

For a complete look at the French Monarchy's genealogical history,
check out the About.com's site "The French Royal Family: A Genealogy"
( http://historymedren.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heraldica.org%2Ftopics%2Ffrance%2Froygenea.htm
), which deals with family lines and includes family heralds.
About.com ( http://historymedren.about.com/cs/frenchroyalty/ ) has
numerous other sites relating to the French monarchy which may also be
of interest, including one entitled "The French Royal Family: Titles
and Customs" ( http://historymedren.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heraldica.org%2Ftopics%2Ffrance%2Ffrroyal.htm
) which provides a fairly detailed written account (and numerous links
to other sites) of each dynasty's claim to the throne. As well, each
of these sites have detailed accounts of the references used in
compiling the lists, which may also help in your search.

As for search parameters used, I can only provide you with
possibilities. These sites were listed among my "Internet Favourites"
and were discovered while working on another "question and answer"
web-site. But I suspect it would be done using Google and the
following parameters:

with the all the words:    Genealogy
with the exact phrase:     French Royalty

You may want to use similar words of phrases such as: lineage, "French
Aristocracy," "French Monarchies," or titles.

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Request for Answer Clarification by wolvies-ga on 19 Nov 2002 08:03 PST

Um, not quite what I was after - maybe aristocracy has a different
meaning in America ? I need a list (a website that lists them will
do)of the dukes and counts from the Second Empire (1850s -1870) with
their family name. I am pretty sure I came across one once, but lost
it and could not this time find it. I know for example that Junot's
family were recreated as dukes through the female line.

Sorry to be a pain but you provided me with a list of rulers as
opposed to the aristocracy. I appreciate the work you have done, but
it doesn't ye answer my question

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Clarification of Answer by mrlathwell-ga on 20 Nov 2002 18:44 PST

Using GeneaNet's Genealogical Database Network ( http://geneanet.org/
), I discovered 307 links to people listed with the last name Junot (
http://www.geneanet.org/result.php3?name=Junot&place=&recherche.x=14&recherche.y=5
).  The following site provide by Geocities (
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/7448/genealogy/genref.htm#VII )
provides book references relating to "ROYAL & NOBLE GENEALOGY," though
none of the sources have actual hyperlinks to websites. I also
discovered your family has a coat of arms via the website Your Family
Crest ( http://heraldry.inkunion.com ). A great site to search your
family might also be found on Cyndis List of Genealogical Sites on the
Internet ( http://www.cyndislist.com/royalty.htm ).

Now I wish to express some facts which you are obviously mistaken
about. First, I'm Canadian. I am not an American and would appreciate
that be noted. Second, this is only a past time activity for me. I
have other duties in my life to perform in my daily tasks. I am not
here for your lone trivial convenience. Therefore, it might be deemed
acceptable to allow a little time for a clarification request to be
noted and researched; much of which might have been avoided if you had
been a little more clear in the posting of your question. I guess
Dorothy Parker was correct; "you can lead a horticulture, but you
can't make her think." If this is the type of treatment I can expect
from people using this service, then I guess I should thank-you. For
your attitude has made it clear that society is filled with
intellectual reprobates and I don't want to waste my time providing a
service to social midgets. Therefore, I am notifying Google of my wish
to terminate our business relationship. Have a nice day.

He didnt answer the question or even seem to read it - I requested at
the least a website on the Second Empire aristocracy, at most (with
implied tip) info on the creations, recreations and aristocratic
families. What I got was an irrelevant list of the rulers of France,
no reference to the questions specifics or the dates given. Seemed to
be from a prepared answer for someone else. If he didn't understand
the question he shouldn't have answered it, or at very least have
asked for clarification. I am looking for infdormation on the dukes
and counts of the Second Empire - THAT is what aristocracy is. BTW I
made this clear and gave a couple hours for him to repost a proper
answer, in that time no response.

Ok, no clarification forthcoming. To be honest I think you should have
stuck with the question you were originally doing then come to this
one focused on it. If you didn't think I offered enough (and all the
answer really needed was a website address) then I could have upped
the price. Sorry, but I don't consider the question answered

Dear wolvies,

As a Google Answers Researcher, I would like to apologize for the
incommensurate behaviour of mrlathwell-ga, though I am not connected
to him in any way.

Best regards,
Scriptor

Dear heavens!

I'm so sorry, Wolvies, that another Researcher has seen fit to treat
you so poorly.

Perhaps you'd like to consider re-posting your question for a
different Researcher to investigate for you?

--Missy

Wolvies:

Add my apology to your collection.  I am appalled at the intellectual
wasteland where  mrlathwell-ga resides. (and I don't mean
Canada)....Missy is always a voice of reason and I hope you will
consider her suggestion.

seedy

Wolvies...

Your list of those apologizing for the inexcusable behavior of
mrlathwell-ga and do hope that you consider reposting your question,
as missy has suggested.  I am sure you will receive an answer that
meets your requirements.

Regards,

-THV

wolvies,

I would like to offer you apologies from me, as well as from all the
other Researchers of honor and integrity. Please try to forget this
treatment, and feel welcome to come back to the service if you need
answers to more questions.

Again, I am SO sorry you were subjected to this.

aceresearcher

Oh Yikes!!

Please consider us all mortified that you were treated so badly,
wolvies.  Most of us go to great lengths to make sure that our
customers are well-treated and receive thorough and well-researched
answers.

I do hope that you will give someone else a chance to erase the memory
of this unpleasant and unwarranted attack.

Beth
Google Answers Researcher

I am speechless. 

Get your money back Wolvies. 
Then we'll get Google to wipe this page clean and start over. 

-K~

Thank you to the original researcher for his comment - I can take
things in good stead and it gave my work colleagues a laugh at BOTH of
our expense ! I very much appreciate the comments of the other
researchers since Google have reopened the question, and I do accept
that I could have asked the question a little more clearly - I just
thought that if it wasn't understood then a researcher would move on
or ask for clarification. I now realise that not everyone will realise
that a monarchical restoration in an aristocratic context is a title
regranted by a later monarch when it was rescinded/attaindered by a
previous one.

All the best to everyone here at Google Answers
Wolvies