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Subject: New Mobiles
Category: Computers > Wireless and Mobile
Asked by: sethmw-ga
List Price: $2.00
Posted: 20 Nov 2002 01:24 PST
Expires: 20 Dec 2002 01:24 PST
Question ID: 111142
How does the sharp gx10 to panasonic gd87? Do they both have wap2.0?

Clarification of Question by sethmw-ga on 20 Nov 2002 01:25 PST
How does the sharp GX10 compare to the panasonic GD87 mobile phone? 
Do they both have wap2.0?  What are the pro's and con's of each.

Thanks
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Subject: Re: New Mobiles
Answered By: pmrozik-ga on 20 Nov 2002 03:14 PST
 
After thoroughly reading Panasonic’s and Sharp’s website, I’ve gotten
the following information. I’ll give you a list of features and then
sum things up by doing a comparison. I’ll start off with the Panasonic
GD87.

Panasonic GD87
Source: Panasonic United Kingdom
[http://www.panasonic.co.uk/index.html] 
1. After opening up this link, select Mobile Phones from the pull-down
menu.
2. In the Mobile Phone Global site choose Europe and the default page
will have information on the GD87.

Specifications:

Dimensions: 97.5  x 49 x 23 mm
Weight: 103g
Volume: 89 cc
Talk Time: 1.6 - 7.0 hours
Standby Time: 75 - 220 hours
Charging Time: Up to 90 mins
(Fast Travel Charger / Car Charger)
Display size: 132 x 176 pixels
Number of Characters: Min. 14 Characters x 7 lines
(English/Chinese)
Frequency: 900/1800/1900 MHz
Standard Kit Contents: Handset + 720mAh Li-ion Battery + Charger +
Operating Instructions
Features:
Built-in Camera
CMOS Camera
5 lux sensitivity
Self-Timer Function
Picture Editing
65,536-colour TFT Display
16-Polyphonic Ring Tones
Clamshell Design
5 directional Navigation Key
GPRS Class 8 (4 + 1 timeslots)
WAP 1.2.1
WAP 2.0 Provisioning
IrDA
SMS Group Send
SMS Chat
20 Preset Ring Tones
Download Capability (Ring tones and logos)
Melody Composer (Mono tone)
Voice Memo
Vibration Alert
Built-in Game
T9® Text Input
Graphic User Interface
Desktop Hands free
Voice Dialing
Phone Book Memory 200 + SIM
Internal Modem
Auto World Clock and Alarm
Calendar and Scheduler
Calculator and Currency Converter
SIM Toolkit
C-PHS

Now let’s take a look at the Sharp GX10.

Sharp GX10
Source: Sharp United Kingdom
[http://www.sharp-mobile.com/gx10/gx10.asp]

Specifications:
Design - Clamshell
Screen & resolution - ( w x h) 120x160 dots/ 65,536 colours
LCD screen size (mm) - 31x42
Built-in camera - Integrated (110k pixels)
Memory storage for approx. 80 pictures
Colour WAP 1.2.1 + SAR
Colour WML/xHTML browser
Java (KVM) with Vodafone Service Class Library extensions
Ringtones - 16-chord Polyphonic audio
Other:
e-animation
Dimensions - W x D x H (mm) 48 x 26 x 94
Weight - 107g
GSM frequencies - Dual band 900 / 1800 Mhz
IrDA infra-red communications

From what I was able to find, the GD87 supports WAP 2.0. Here's a
quote I found:

"You can even browse WAP pages in full colour using the WAP 2.0 colour
browser - life need never be dull again."

Source: [http://www.panasonicmobile.com/press/eng/product009.html]

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to locate anything which says that
the Sharp GX10 supports WAP 2.0. From the specifications it is clear
that WAP 1.2.1 is supported at the moment, with no mention of WAP 2.0.
The Panasonic has a slightly sharper screen, although it will hardly
be noticeable as the difference is minute. Sharp: 120x160, Panasonic:
132x176. They both weigh just about the same and are similar in size.
Java support is implemented in each model, and this is quite important
as Java is becoming quite popular in the mobile world. Overall they’re
both feature-rich, but Panasonic seems to have the edge in terms of
gadgetry. One of the most important things you should keep in mind is
the battery. After all, what good is a phone without one?

Panasonic advertises their phone as having up to 220 hours standby
time. I’ve found a site which gives some information on the energy
consumption of the Sharp GX10 and they list Sharp’s maximum standby
time as up to 250 hours.

Source: [http://www.electronicstalk.com/news/anc/anc180.html]

They seem to be also similar in this respect, but keep in mind that
talk time and standby time may both be significantly reduced if you
chronically play games, for example.

Last but not least, let’s see how professionals see them. I’ve
registered with www.thefuturelook.com in order to find out what they
think. Here are some excerpts:

Panasonic GD87

“The GD87 also has plenty of good old-fashioned phone features to
recommend it. It’s got high-speed mobile internet access via GPRS, an
infrared port for synchronising your contacts and diary with your
computer and an email client so you can keep up with your mail on the
move. It not only looks good, it sounds good too with 16-note
polyphonic ringtones – fast becoming an essential aspect of high-end
phones. And once you’ve tried the games on a screen like this one, you
really won’t be interested in anything less.

On the downside, it’s currently lacking in Java, though depending on
your network you may be able to download additional games from the
internet via games kitchen In-Fusio, and there’s no Bluetooth. The
joystick ring feels a little fiddly and takes a bit of getting used to
– a shame when the rest of the phone feels so good – sturdy, reliable
and it closes with an extremely satisfying click.”

Rating: 45/50

Source:[https://www.thefuturelook.com/protected/reviews/panasonicgd87.html#]
Note: You must register in order to use the site, registration is
free.

Sharp GX10

“There's no doubt that the camera and colour screen will be the GX10's
main selling points. But there are plenty of other things to get
excited about here. It comes with three games pre-installed - PK Game,
Collection Hunter and Air Hockey - but the phone's Java capability
means that if you're not satisfied with the games or functions it
comes with, you can always download new ones from the web or your PC.
There are thousands of Java applications available, created by
everyone from multinationals to keen amateurs, so you're bound to find
something that you like, from games to personal organisers, currency
converters to heart rate monitors.
As well as a full range of organisation tools, including calendar,
call manager and voice notes (though there are no voice commands) you
can also compose your own polyphonic ringtones, with an orchestra of
over 100 instruments to choose from.
As with all today's camera phones, don't expect to be getting David
Bailey-style results - they're a fun addition designed for taking
quick snaps and sending them on, and for that they're brilliant.”

Rating: 45/50

Source: [https://www.thefuturelook.com/protected/reviews/sharpgx10.html#]
Note: You must register in order to use the site, registration is
free.

Final opinion:

I’m assuming that you’re planning to purchase one of the two. Well,
both of these phones are state of the art by today’s standards.
Panasonic has been in the mobile phone market for a while, while Sharp
has only entered it recently. As you can see in the reviews above,
they were given the same rating. Therefore it’s your call. I hope I
have provided you with enough information. I’m listing some other
useful links below:

Mobile-review.com Review Panasonic GD87
[http://www.mobile-review.com/review/panasonic-gd87-en.shtml]
 
LH Miles & More 1: Vodafone Germany is ready to launch the Panasonic
GD 87
[http://www.ppcw.net/stories.php?story=02/10/06/8621456]

Description of the Sharp GX10 (Cached)
[http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:SzWpCYhoGEkJ:www.klublife.co.uk/competitions/competitions15.html+Sharp+GX10+specifications&hl=en&ie=UTF-8]

Search terms used: ‘Sharp GX10 review’, ‘Panasonic GD87 review’,
‘mobile phone comparison’

I hope this satisfies your inquiry.

pmrozik-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by sethmw-ga on 20 Nov 2002 04:19 PST
Your answer was very good. Thank you. I have actualy been to most of
those sites.  The real question I have is what exactly does WAP 2.0
provisioning mean?  Thanks Seth

Clarification of Answer by pmrozik-ga on 20 Nov 2002 08:43 PST
WAP 2.0 Provisioning

I had to dig a little deeper to find out about WAP Provisioning, and
even deeper to understand exactly what it is and how it works.

Here’s a quote from a WAP FAQ:

”WAP 2.0 defines provisioning services that provide a standard
approach to
providing WAP clients with information needed to operate on the
wireless networks.
This permits the network operator to manage the devices on its network
using a
common set of tools”

Source: WAP 2.0 FAQ (Converted from PDF)
[http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:znVWX6pq8mIC:www.jataayusoft.com/toolkit-faq.pdf+WAP+2.0+provisioning&hl=en&ie=UTF-8]

I went ahead and read the specification relating to the WAP
Provisioning Architecture Overview. I’ll list a few quotes below,
along with a link to the document:

“Provisioning is the process by which a WAP client is configured with
a minimum set of interaction. The term covers both over the air (OTA)
provisioning and provisioning by means of, e.g. SIM cards.”


“Provisioned State
The state in which an ME has obtained connectivity information
extending its access capabilities for content, applications or
continuous provisioning. This state is reached when the bootstrap
process has provided access to generic proxies, or the continuous
provisioning process has been performed.”

(Editor’s note: ME is an abbreviation for Mobile Equipment)

Source: Provisioning Architecture Overview PDF document from
www.wapforum.org
[http://www1.wapforum.org/tech/terms.asp?doc=WAP-182-PROVARCH-20010314-a.pdf]

Now all of that might still not make things clear and I don't want to
baffle you with other quotes. I’ll try to explain it the way I see it.
Provisioning allows your mobile phone or other network device to be
configured to use the services provided by the network operator. Since
most users would be unable to configure the device themselves, all
configuration information is set (access point, proxy) automatically
by the network operator. To sum things up, provisioning allows your
mobile phone to configure itself and find out what type of services
are available on the network and how to access them.

In reference to the Panasonic GD87 phone, I would assume that “WAP 2.0
Provisioning” means that it is capable of accessing and configuring
itself on a network that provides WAP 2.0 services.

I hope this is satisfactory.

pmrozik-ga
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