Dear anthonyde-ga
First the Mick Jagger quote.
There are pages on the web quoting Jagger but these are secondary
sources as the contributors are unlikely to have been present:
“first they put you in prison , then they put you in a museum”
Source: http://www.popbitch.com/questions/35/24/
“Mick at the American Musica (sic) Awards - American's are funny.
First you shock them, then they put you in a museum.”
Source: http://www.stonespeople.com/gastenboek/old1.html
The best primary source I have been able to find are the newspapers
and even they vary. I have been unable to copy the full text here
because of copyright. (see search strategy on how to access them)
The Boston Globe of January 19, 1989, Thursday, City Edition describes
the fourth annual induction ceremonies of the Rock-and-Roll Hall of
Fame. A black-tie dinner at the Waldorf Astoria, where “1,000 industry
insiders paid up to $ 1,250 a ticket for dinner and ceremonies” There,
the papers reports the following part of a speech:
"We've been rewarded for 25 years of bad behavior," Mick Jagger said.
"First we shock you. Then they put you in a museum."
The New York Times of January 19, 1989, Thursday, reports “the group's
lead singer, Mick Jagger, quoted Jean Cocteau in his acceptance
speech: ‘Americans are funny people. First you shock them, then they
put you in a museum.’ ''
Moving now to the Jean Cocteau quote.
There are many quote sites which provide this quote by Cocteau (see
search strategy) but DO NOT provide the context of the quote:
"The instinct of nearly all societies is to lock up anybody who is
truly free. First, society begins by trying to beat you up. If this
fails, they try to poison you. If this fails too, they finish by
loading honors on your head.
--Jean Cocteau (1889-1963)"
Source: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/q103626.html
And
http://home.att.net/~quotesabout/jeancocteau.html
I was unable to find a French language version of this quote.
However, by changing the spelling of the word honor to the English
style honour I found the following:
"The instinct of nearly all societies is to lock up anybody who is
truly free. First, society begins by trying to beat you up. If this
fails, they try to poison you. If this fails too, they finish by
loading honours on your head.
JEAN COCTEAU (1889-1963), in Landon Gerald Dowdey, ed., ‘Struggle:
Participation in the Journey,’ Journey to Freedom, 1969 "
Source: http://www.actualfreedom.com.au/actualism/alan/corr-a-b.htm
No trace of the book in the British Library. However, the Library of
Congress has the following entry:
LC Control Number: 70084899 Type of Material: Book (Print, Microform,
Electronic, etc.) Brief Description: Dowdey, Landon, comp.
Journey to freedom; a casebook with music.
Chicago, Swallow Press [1969]
106 p. illus. 29 cm.
CALL NUMBER: ML54.8 .D7J7
Copy 1 -- Request in: Performing Arts Reading Room (Madison, LM113) --
Status: Not Charged
Source
http://catalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=44&ti=26,44&Search_Arg=Journey+to+Freedom&Search_Code=TALL&PID=8153&CNT=25&SEQ=20021123071644&SID=3
Also at the University of British Columbia Library
http://dra.library.ubc.ca/MARION/AGJ-3966
Much to my frustration I have been unable to find corroboration online
about the source of the quote.
No trace on amazon.com
Landon Dowdey may be a Los Angles based composer.
Source: http://www.lodestone-media.com/suemedia/2001_season.htm
Please ask for clarification of any part of this research, or if the
links do not work, before rating the answer.
Answerfinder-ga
Search strategy
“Jagger” “then they put you in a museum” – this gave me the reference
to Cocteau
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%E2%80%9CJagger%E2%80%9D+%22then+they+put+you+in+a+museum%22
Newspapers – unfortunately they are from a pay site. Go to the below
site. Click on ‘Try the full LexisNexis Executive by Credit Card
product’ link. Follow the instructions until you obtain the search
box. Enter the following in the search box: “Jagger” AND “put in a
museum” . Select last 20 years of publications. Hit search. You should
then obtain 10 hits. Follow the instructions and pay by credit card to
view the results.
http://www.lexis-nexis.co.uk/site/Search_page.asp
"Jean Cocteau" quotes – looked through these until I found the above
quote.
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22Jean+Cocteau%22+quotes&spell=1
"instinct of nearly all societies is to lock up"
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22instinct+of+nearly+all+societies+is+to+lock+up%22&btnG=Google+Search
"they finish by loading honours on your head" – English spelling
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22they+finish+by+loading+honours+on+your+head%22 |
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