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English language question on the difference between "me" "myself" and "I"
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: cjmorley-ga List Price: $4.50 |
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22 Nov 2002 10:16 PST
Expires: 22 Dec 2002 10:16 PST Question ID: 112635 |
Given 3 choices, "me", "myself", and "I", what is the most proper word to fill in the blank below? "No one but _____ could have managed to do such a thing." Include an explanatory breakdown, stating any applicable rules and/or exceptions. |
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Re: English language question on the difference between "me" "myself" and "I"
Answered By: gan-ga on 22 Nov 2002 10:39 PST Rated: |
Hello cjmorley, I recall from my schooldays a short rule, which helps one to remember the functions of parts of a sentence: 'The subject verbs the object' Correlating with the following convention, sourced from The Technical Communicators Resource Site: Writing Styleguide: http://www.techcommunicators.com/stylegui/style-m.html "Use the pronoun 'I' as a subject, Use 'me' as an object; use 'myself' when the person receiving the action is the same as the person doing the action." your example should read: "No one but I could have managed to do such a thing." "No one but [the subject] could have managed [to verb] such an [object]" Search Strategy: Searchterm used in Google search engine: "me, myself and I" when use ://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22me%2C+myself+and+I%22+when+use I trust this answers your question. If you require further information, please, do not hesitate to ask me for clarification before rating my research. Best regards, gan. | |
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The research good, but thoughtful analysis of the data provided led to a different conclusion than the one give. I trust the gan agrees with my rebuttal and final conclusion. |
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Re: English language question on the difference between "me" "myself" and "I"
From: blackbird-ga on 22 Nov 2002 11:10 PST |
I would use 'no one but me' rather than 'no one but I'. If 'but' is considered a preposition rather than a conjunction, it is followed by the object rather than the subject. According to The American HeritageŽ Dictionary of the English Language (4th Edition, 2000): "<but> is best considered as a preposition [in this sense] and followed by accusative forms such as <me> and <them> in all positions: <No one but me has read it. No one has read it but me.>" Full details at http://www.bartleby.com/61/71/B0577100.html (scroll down to the Usage Note) Google search strategy: "No one but I" Kind regards blackbird-ga |
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Re: English language question on the difference between "me" "myself" and "I"
From: cjmorley-ga on 22 Nov 2002 11:16 PST |
Blackbird, Thanks for backing me up on this one. I don't know what I would do without you, but talk to myself! Take care, -Chris. |
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Re: English language question on the difference between "me" "myself" and "I"
From: cjmorley-ga on 22 Nov 2002 11:26 PST |
Rating should read: The research good, but thoughtful analysis of the data provided led to a different conclusion than the one given. I trust that gan agrees with my rebuttal and final conclusion. I can't even type. |
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Re: English language question on the difference between "me" "myself" and "I"
From: carnegie-ga on 22 Nov 2002 18:25 PST |
Dear Cjmorley, It's perhaps worth mentioning that the (mis)use of "myself" in situations like this is often an attempt to avoid the decision between "I" and "me". So it's helpful to note that "myself" has only two correct uses: reflexive and intensive. Your own expression (in your comment to Blackbird) "... but talk to myself!" is a good example of the (correct) reflexive use. The "to" here is a preposition and requires the objective case, so one might expect "... but talk to me!". But this is not good English, of course: when the pronoun refers back to the subject of the sentence, the reflexive form is required. The other use is typified by how you answer if someone asks you who makes your clothes. In spoken language, it would suffice to say "I make them." The stress on the word "I" would make the meaning clear. But in written language, the reply may look like "I _make_ them" and may be initially confusing. So here we write (or say) "I make them myself", to stress that - contrary to the apparent assumption on the part of the questioner - no one else makes them, but you do. Any other use of the reflexive pronoun is probably an attempt to avoid facing up to the choice between the two forms of the ordinary pronoun. I agree that your sentence should read "No one but me ...". Carnegie |
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