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date of recording of a Beethoven record
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Performing Arts Asked by: bluestreak-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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23 Nov 2002 17:33 PST
Expires: 23 Dec 2002 17:33 PST Question ID: 113419 |
Walter Goehr was a orchestra conductor who recorded my favorite version of Beethoven's 9th Symphony. It was with the Radio Frankfurt Symphony Orchestra & Chorus. I would love to know the date & place of recording. It was release on the Audio Fidelity label. It has 1959 on the label but that could be a copyright date, release date, or date it was aquired by the label. I can pay $5.00 for hard, not soft information. |
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Re: date of recording of a Beethoven record
From: tisme-ga on 25 Nov 2002 13:59 PST |
I emailed Audio Fidelity but unfortunately got this reply: "This is a new and different Audio Fidelity. Unfortunately, we have none of the old product. That company was sold or absorbed. The Audio Fidelity was free and clear, so I reregistered. Good luck in your search." Just a heads up for any researchers who had the same idea. tisme-ga |
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Re: date of recording of a Beethoven record
From: bluestreak-ga on 25 Nov 2002 16:12 PST |
Thank you so much tisme. Another researcher knows somebody who may be able to shed light on the case of the disappearing record label. That label had amazing versions of good classical stuff. Hope someday their old inventory gets put onto CD. |
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Re: date of recording of a Beethoven record
From: sian-ga on 25 Nov 2002 20:32 PST |
Und der Cherub steht vor Abraxas! (BG). The Ninth is such a profound work in more ways than one, especially when it's performed on period instruments. The manner in which themes from the first three movements are furtively recalled at the opening of the fourth movement and peremptorily dismissed by dramatic recitatives in the 'cellos and basses is utterly magical. |
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Re: date of recording of a Beethoven record
From: bluestreak-ga on 25 Nov 2002 21:33 PST |
Dear Sian, Thank you for your feedback on the 9th, the most amazing piece of super music we've ever had the good luck to have bequeathed to us by Ludwig. The 1st movement makes me feel as if I'm skiing down a breathtaking slope. And those little soft phrases come from places unknown, but to the angels. The 2nd you can get lost in. But the 3rd! An ocean of deepest lyricism, but clear to its deepest depths. The greatest communication anyone has ever been allowed. To listen to at night while ones sleeps is the easy way to grow spiritually & psychologically. Utterly beyond what my crude adjectives can ever convey. The sounds of heaven briefly visiting us here in the dark. Thank you Ludwig Van. Strangely, a 60's film, A Clockwork Orange uses it to fasinate a criminal mind. The last choral movement? Again, words won't assist us! Bluestreak PS You haven't heard it until you hear Goehr's Frankfurt version. How odd, an obscure conductor brings us to the ultimate. In a 1950's book, The Best, it was chosen as the best version of the 9th ever recorded. |
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Re: date of recording of a Beethoven record
From: markj-ga on 27 Nov 2002 16:40 PST |
bluestreak -- This is "soft" information, although it is from a source that seems to be reliable. Unfortunately, it does not give you the answer you seek, but the information may be useful to you and other researchers. The source is the proprietor of a website offering CD reissues of old classical music performances that are in the public domain: http://www.rediscovery.us/index.htm It came to me in an e-mail response to my posting at the newsgroup rec.music.classical.recordings(accessible through Google Groups). "I don't have a precise date, but I can tell you that the recording was not made by Audio-Fidelity, and it doesn't date from 1959. The performance appeared in the US around 1957 on a Concert Hall 2-channel stereo tape. A catalog of Concert Hall tapes labeled "mid-1957" includes the Beethoven, but not as a "latest release", so the 9th probably dates from late 1956 or early 1957. "Concert Hall ceased operations in the US shortly after these releases and their tapes (few in number) quickly disappeared, but CH did license their recordings to a lot of US labels, such as Everest, Nonesuch, Vanguard, and Audio Fidelity. It was around 1962 when the AF discs of the Goehr 9th appeared (the label said copyright 1959 but it often said that regardless of when the recording was made or when the LP was actually issued). "We have a copy of the Concert Hall stereo tape of the Goehr 9th and may do something with it in the future." I hope this helps. markj-ga |
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Re: date of recording of a Beethoven record
From: bluestreak-ga on 27 Nov 2002 18:29 PST |
Markj, OH! Joy!!! It's been my prayer that the Goehr 9th appear on CD, since CD's first arrived. By all means encourage this good fellow to put it out! Please! Is there any way I could communicate with this person? Bluestreak |
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Re: date of recording of a Beethoven record
From: markj-ga on 27 Nov 2002 19:33 PST |
bluestreak -- You can use the e-mail address provided as contact information at the website to which I provided a link in my previous comment. Good luck! markj-ga |
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