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THORACIC SPINE
Category: Health > Medicine Asked by: poco-ga List Price: $50.00 |
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23 Nov 2002 21:07 PST
Expires: 23 Dec 2002 21:07 PST Question ID: 113509 |
What do the following mean in laymans terms? "subacute compression fracture of the eighth thoracic verterbral body with approximately 50% loss of vertical stature at the anterior margin and low grade retropulsion ofthe posterior cortex. There is no bone marrow lesion save for a benign vertebral body hermangioma at T2" (Thoracic Spine) |
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Re: THORACIC SPINE
Answered By: missy-ga on 23 Nov 2002 23:42 PST |
Hello Poco, I hope this doesn't refer to *you*! If it does, you have my sympathy! Compression fractures *hurt* - I've had one for years in my lower back, and it's no fun at all. Let's break this into smaller pieces first, to help you understand all of the medicalese: Thoracic spine: The twelve vertebrae between your neck and lower back. These are numbered T1 through T12, with T1 being the first one right after the base of your neck (the eighth from the top). Skeletal Spine (picture) http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/1116.htm Thoracic spine (picture) http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/1774.htm Subacute: Between acute (having a short and relatively severe course) and chronic (persisting over a long period of time). Also, requiring specialized care. Subacute http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?query=subacute&action=Search+OMD What does subacute mean? http://www.subacutenet.com/main-subacute-faq.html#question 3 Compression fracture: A compression fracture occurs when a vertebra collapses in on itself (compresses)and shrinks in height. In even shorter terms: It's squashed to half its height. Compression fracture http://www.dynomed.com/encyclopedia/encyclopedia/spine/Compression_Fracture.htm Anterior margin - the front edge (the portion at the front of the vertebra, facing into the body) Retropulsion: a pushing back. Retropulsion http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?query=retropulsion&action=Search+OMD In this instance, it's referring to the spinal cortex (covering of the spinal cord). The compression fracture is causing part of the posterior (towards the back of the body) spinal cortex to be pushed slightly backwards, causing it to bulge. Lesion: an injury or tissue loss. There is apparently no loss of (or injury to) bone marrow tissue here. Lesion http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?query=lesion&action=Search+OMD Hemangioma: a small cluster of blood vessels (think "strawberry hemangioma", the name for a birthmark caused by a cluster of swollen capillaries at the skin's surface). This is a fairly non-specific term, and is describing a benign (harmless) cluster of blood vessels on the eighth vertebra. Hemangioma http://www.emedicine.com/cgi-bin/foxweb.exe/searchengine@/em/searchengine?boolean=and&book=all&maxhits=100&HiddenURL=&query=Hemangioma To double check all of my references, I called my friend Jeff, an MD/PhD (physician scientist!) candidate at the University of Michigan Medical School. Jeff was kind enough to translate thusly: "> "subacute compression > fracture of the eighth thoracic verterbral body with approximately 50% > loss of vertical stature at the anterior margin The body of the # eight thoracic veterbra is crushed vertically to half it's normal height in front.... > and low grade > retropulsion ofthe posterior cortex. And it bulges backwards somewhat. > There is no bone marrow lesion > save for a benign vertebral body hermangioma at T2" (Thoracic Spine) This part is difficult --because I have no idea what the guy who wrote the diagnosis was actually looking for. "Bone marrow Lesion" is not at all informative to me. "Benign vertebra body hemangioma" is equally not specific --it just means there's a little tangle of blood vessels up at thorasic vertebra #2 that the doctor somehow thinks is nothing to worry about." Poco, I hope this is easier for you to understand than all of the medical jargon, and I do hope that this isn't your injury! If it is, I wish you a speedy recovery! If you need further assistance, please don't hesitate to ask, I'll be glad to help you! As ever, for more specific medical advice, be certain to consult your physician. With best wishes, --Missy Search terms: defined in the body of the answer. |
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Re: THORACIC SPINE
From: surgeon-ga on 24 Nov 2002 10:42 PST |
In simple terms it means the vertebra in question is squeezed to one half its normal height on its front side, and that the squeezing has pushed some of the inside of the bone backward. Subacute implies the process didn't just happen; meaning there is probably some evidence of repair going on. Hemangiomas are benign growths of blood vessels, can occur anywhere (on the skin, they are called birthmarks, among other things) and are almost always of no significance -- just something noticed. The causes of compression fracture are several: injury, osteoporosis (bone loss of calcium for various reasons), tumor. Reference to bone marrow lesion is probably a way of addressing whether or not there's a suggestion that the compression could be due to tumor; by saying there's no bone marrow lesion, the radiologist is saying there's not that particular evidence of tumor. |
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Re: THORACIC SPINE
From: surgeon-ga on 24 Nov 2002 13:22 PST |
And to amplify the marrow thing....if tumor is in a vertebra, it nearly always got there from somewhere else, via the blood stream. The marrow has by far more blood circulation than other parts of bone, so spread tumor (metastases) end up in the marrow, as a rule. |
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Re: THORACIC SPINE
From: surgeon-ga on 25 Nov 2002 09:49 PST |
One more thing: in re-reading the original answer, I find the following: " In this instance, it's referring to the spinal cortex (covering of the spinal cord). The compression fracture is causing part of the posterior (towards the back of the body) spinal cortex to be pushed slightly backwards, causing it to bulge. Lesion: an injury or tissue loss. There is apparently no loss of (or injury to) bone marrow tissue here." This is not really accurate, as you hopefully can gather from my first response. "Spinal cortex" is not the covering of the spinal cord. The report does not suggest there is bulging of the cord. Likewise, the reference to lack of a bone marrow lesion is not to say that there is no loss of bone marrow tissue: rather it's saying that there's no lesion (abnormality) of the bone marrow, which, as I said, is a reference to signs of tumor.... |
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Re: THORACIC SPINE
From: missy-ga on 25 Nov 2002 10:08 PST |
I think you mean "reference to lack of tumor", yes? In any case, the customer sought a translation from medicalese into English, which he was given, with references, illustrations and a complete double check and translation from someone in the medical field. I'm confident the customer will be pleased to have plain English in front of him. Google Answers is an inappropriate venue for diagnoses of any sort - any further questions from the patient should be answered by the physician handling his care, as has been noted in the answer. I've seen you about on many of the medical- related questions, and would be interested in knowing your credentials. --Missy |
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Re: THORACIC SPINE
From: surgeon-ga on 25 Nov 2002 17:15 PST |
I don't believe I was giving a diagnosis; just a translation of the terminology, and a couple of corrections. Your friend stated he didn't know the meaning of the lack of a bone marrow lesion, and I believe I clarified that as well. As to credentials, I have been a practicing general surgeon in the US since finishing my training and military in 1977. I am a Fellow of the American College of Surgeons, a diplomate of the American Board of Surgery, and am listed in the "guide to top doctors,'' published by The Center for the Study of Services, in 1999. I am semi-retired, and have the time to help where I can. |
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Re: THORACIC SPINE
From: missy-ga on 25 Nov 2002 19:45 PST |
I suspect you may have misunderstood what my friend meant - his comment that "bone marrow lesion" wasn't informative to him was meant in the context of not knowing the patient's full case, "lesion" being a rather non-specific term. He didn't know what the physician was originally looking for, and thus didn't want to offer any guesses. Was your medical training done in the course of your military service, or prior to it? Do you mind if I ask where you went to Med School? No particular reason for asking, just curiosity. --Missy |
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