abrandt,
First of all, thank you for asking for me by name. I regret any
inconveniences that may have been caused by my not answering the
question referenced above.
I believe you are already familiar with the Google Advanced Search
page:
://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en
Around the middle of this page, you will see a section labeled
"Occurrences Return results where my terms occur", and a dropdown box
with various options, such as "in the title of the page" and "in the
url of a page". However, you will note that only one of these options
can be selected. Thus, from the Advanced Search page, you must limit
your entire search to one specific part of the document.
It is possible to get around this limitation, but not via the Advanced
Search page options. To do this, we must use the Advanced Search
Operations of Google, manually specifying the sections we want Google
to search in the manner we want them searched. A list of the Advanced
Search Operations can be found here:
://www.google.com/help/operators.html
Note that while it is mentioned that many of these can be used on the
Advanced Google Search page, some of them are not. Two of the most
powerful of these options are "inurl" and "intitle" These allow us to
limit the searches of specific sections of our query to only the URL
and only the title.
For example: suppose we wanted to find all of the resumes of people
with the relatively uncommon name "York" that have C++ programming
skills. First, let's try a simple query like such:
resume York C++
Yielding the following result:
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=resume+York+C%2B%2B&btnG=Google+Search
As you can quickly see, the results of this search are not optimal.
Many of the documents returned are not resumes at all, and of the ones
that are, an extremely small percentage of them are from people with
the name "York", as our query is skewed by the much more common use of
the word in the city name "New York". In fact, of the first 100
results, only one resume from a person named York is returned.
So, how can we improve this search? The way I recommend is using two
commonalities found in online resumes:
1) Resumes tend to have the name "resume", or "resume" somewhere in
the URL.
2) Resumes tend to have the person's name somewhere in the document
title.
By limiting our search for "resume" to the URL and "York" to the
title, we should be able to get a considerably more relavent result
from Google. If you try to do this from the Advanced Search page, you
will see that this is not possible. But if you enter this query into
the main Google query page:
inurl:resume intitle:York C++
You will get this result:
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=inurl%3Aresume+intitle%3AYork+C%2B%2B&btnG=Google+Search
Only 16 results are returned, four of which are resumes for people
named "York".
This was the "most advanced searching techniques" that I was alluding
to in the previous question's Request for Clarification.
I have actually answered a separate question that goes into a bit more
detail on using this technique and a few other tips for finding
resumes on the Internet. If you are interested, please see this
answer for more information:
https://answers.google.com/answers/main?cmd=threadview&id=99810 |
Request for Answer Clarification by
abrandt-ga
on
26 Nov 2002 22:37 PST
Hello Hailstorm-ga,
Good to hear back from you... I appreciate the content value of your
answer.
Now the "TIP" questions:
HOW do we successfully APPLY these ADVANCED TECHNIQUES to specifically
to questions 1 & 2 (below)???... in order to yield highly TARGETED
SEARCH results potential that you had previously referred to at:
https://answers.google.com/answers/main?cmd=threadview&id=108681#a
1. Locate Corporate websites with the web page URL that LISTS their
CORPORATE OFFICERS (CXO's... CEO, CFO, CTO / CIO)?
2. Narrow the search to just (1) CITY per search so that the "1,000
results" barrier becomes irrelevent (or a superior method)?
Looking forward,
abrandt-ga
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Request for Answer Clarification by
abrandt-ga
on
26 Nov 2002 22:48 PST
Hailstorm-ga:
One other quick question comes to mind as well:
3. HOW to use the ADVANCED TECHNIQUES to return 100 vs. 10 results ?
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Clarification of Answer by
hailstorm-ga
on
27 Nov 2002 00:21 PST
abrandt,
Thank you for your clarification request. I regret that due to other
outside issues, I may not be able to respond to these additional
questions in a timely matter. Since these are beyond the scope of the
original question, you may receive a faster response to your queries
if you post them as a separate question or questions to allow other
researchers the chance to build upon this information.
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Request for Answer Clarification by
abrandt-ga
on
27 Nov 2002 06:57 PST
Hailstorm-ga,
1. > Since these are beyond the scope of the original question...
2. > I may not be able to respond to these additional questions in a
timely matter...
1. Did you miss that I was applying a "TIP" to answer the ancillary
questions?
2. Are you able to answer the additional questions as you implied in
your "Request for Question Clarification" by hailstorm-ga on 16 Nov
2002 17:11 PST posted at:
https://answers.google.com/answers/main?cmd=threadview&id=108681#a
3. If YES, when would be the earliest you could provide an answer?
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Clarification of Answer by
hailstorm-ga
on
28 Nov 2002 23:29 PST
abrandt,
1) I did not miss the offer of a tip for the additional questions.
However, I believe the purpose of a tip is to offer gratitude for an
answer received, not as way of receiving information beyond the scope
of the original question for an undetermined fee.
2) If I had believed I could answer your previous question to your
satisfaction, I would have answered that one. However, I did not
believe that I could provide a satisfactory answer to that question,
and I continue to maintain that I do not believe I am able to do so in
this case. I was able to answer this question only because you
requested me by name, and I believed that the scope was limited to the
specific information regarding the advanced searching operators I
alluded to in clarifications in the previous question.
If you feel that the information provided in this answer does not meet
your expectations for the original question, I would suggest that you
request from Google to be refunded for this question, with my full
apologies and understanding.
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Request for Answer Clarification by
abrandt-ga
on
29 Nov 2002 13:50 PST
Hello Hailstorm-ga,
1) TIP: Gratitude is fine. I simply did the mathematics and figured a
$5 TIP for extenstions are worth more to a Researcher than the
original PRICE set. I suppose perception can be subjective on this
issue.
2) "...I continue to maintain that I do not believe I am able to do so
in
this case." I did not understand this to be the case.
3) I will not dispute the $5.00 for answer provided.
4) Would you please answer this... it appears not to be addressed by
you or the LINKS provided: HOW to use the ADVANCED TECHNIQUES to
return 100 vs. 10 results ?
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Clarification of Answer by
hailstorm-ga
on
30 Nov 2002 03:16 PST
abrandt,
With regards to point #4, I believe that by using the techniques of
limiting highly context relavent information to specific portions of
the document (namely the title and the URL name), you will be able to
weed out a significant portion of less important documents, and thus
reduce the number of documents returned, and assure that the documents
that are returned are of a highly relavent nature.
As a simple example, suppose we are looking for information on the
Japanese anime movie "Grave of the Fireflies". By doing a simple
search on this term:
"Grave of the Fireflies"
We receive over 20,000 links, well beyond the 1,000 page Google limit:
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22Grave+of+the+Fireflies%22
However, assuming that the most important pages dealing with this will
have the movie name in the title of the page, simply changing the
search to this:
intitle:"Grave of the Fireflies"
Reveals the following results:
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=intitle%3A%22Grave+of+the+Fireflies%22
Only 727 this time, all of which can be returned, and all of which
will be highly relevant.
So to reiterate,by limiting the most important terms to being searched
in the title only, and perhaps by limiting _the_ most important single
word term to be searched in the URL only, while searching for the
remaining terms throughout the document, your results should bring
much better concentration of highly relevant results than a simple
search throughout the entire document for all terms can provide. After
entering all of the most relevant terms as title only or URL only
searches, continue to refine the search with additional relevant terms
to be searched throughout the document until you are returning below
the 1,000 result limit, or until you hit the 10 term maximum limit set
by Google.
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Request for Answer Clarification by
abrandt-ga
on
30 Nov 2002 12:44 PST
Hi Hailstorm-ga,
You misunderstood the intent of my question:
4) Would you please answer this... it appears not to be addressed by
you or the LINKS provided: HOW to use the ADVANCED TECHNIQUES to
return 100 vs. 10 results ?
IF YOU GO to ://www.google.com/advanced_search, one finds
immediately LEFT of the "Google Search" button and DROP-DOWN MENU
listing the options of 10 to 100 RESULTS.
Rephasing my question... WHAT ADVANCED TECHNIQUE text does one insert
to configure or request that 100 RESULTS PER PAGE be returned vs. only
10 results per page?
Thank you in advance for a specific and prompt response.
Happy Holidays to you,
abrandt-ga
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Clarification of Answer by
hailstorm-ga
on
30 Nov 2002 17:49 PST
abrandt,
My apologies for my misinterpretation.
Unfortunately, it is impossible to specify the number of results you
want received in the Google query box. The only way you can do this is
to manually graft this information onto the end of the Google query
URL. The easiest way to do this is to perform a Google query normally,
then append the search number parameter to the end of the URL.
For example, in our previous search:
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=intitle%3A%22Grave+of+the+Fireflies%22
The number of results returned is dependant on the default settings on
the browser being used (if there are no default settings, the default
default is 10 results). On the end of this URL, add the URL command
"&num=100". The "&" portion is a command to tell the Google parser
that another parameter is being passed, "num" is the name of the
parameter, "=" tells the Google parser that we are sending a value for
the num parameter, and 100 is the number of results we want returned
(Google only allows for values of 10, 20, 30, 50, or 100 for num) When
you finish, the new slightly longer URL should look as follows:
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=intitle%3A%22Grave+of+the+Fireflies%22&num=100
Now if you press enter while your cursor is still in the URL entry box
of your browser, Google will return 100 results for your query.
By the way, if you examine the URL you may notice many other
parameters. However, for the purposes of searching, the only other
parameter of importance is the "q" parameter, which specifies your
query. So the following, much shorter URL should yield much the same
results:
://www.google.com/search?q=intitle%3A%22Grave+of+the+Fireflies%22&num=100
Because URLs can only contain letters, numbers, and very specific
special characters, and because some of those characters have special
meanings within URLs, you need to take special care in creating your
own URLs without doing a pre-search using Google. In URLs, a space
character is represented by either a plus sign "+" or the special code
"%20". Other special codes in this URL are the colon in "intitle:",
represented as "%3A", and quote marks represented by "%22" You will
have to keep this in mind if you wish to generate your own Google
queries completely on your own. Because ampersands (&), plus marks
(+), question marks (?) and equal signs (=) all have special meanings
in URLs, if you are using those actual characters within any portion
of your queries, you will have to change those characters to the
corresponding URL escape codes within the hand-crafted URLs.
For a list of all URL escape codes you may need, please this page:
http://www.thomas-fahle.de/pub/perl/LWP/HTTP/Tabellen/URL_Escape_Codes.html
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Clarification of Answer by
hailstorm-ga
on
01 Dec 2002 00:26 PST
abrandt,
Thank you for your rating and tip, as well as your patience while I
found the information I needed.
All of my search engine experience comes from reading the help pages
from the various search engines and trial and error experimentation.
But I no longer see the use in using any search engine other than
Google, as I have found that over 99% of the time (and getting closer
to 100% every day) Google is superior to any other search engine in
finding information I need, so practising Google techniques will
probably provide the most benefit.
To give you something more to build upon, I used the methods outlined
in this answer to find the following site, an excellent description of
Google, what it can do, what it _can't_ do, and links to many other
helpful resources here:
http://www.aallnet.org/chapter/llops/committees/internet/google.htm
As an epilogue, here are the Google search terms I used to find this
page:
intitle:google search engine techniques "intitle" "inurl"
And the results from Google:
://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=intitle%3Agoogle+search+engine+techniques+%22intitle%22+%22inurl%22
Good luck, and happy Googling!
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Request for Answer Clarification by
abrandt-ga
on
02 Dec 2002 09:31 PST
Hello Hailstorm-ga,
Appreciate the value content of your "epilogue" and your extra effort
to provide clean and exacting answers.
Your 5 STARS are well deserved.
Keep up the good work and Happy Holidays.
abrandt-ga
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