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Subject: Birthdate for former baseball owner
Category: Sports and Recreation > Team Sports
Asked by: bluestreak-ga
List Price: $7.00
Posted: 26 Nov 2002 18:08 PST
Expires: 26 Dec 2002 18:08 PST
Question ID: 115159
Charles Webb Murphy owned the Cleveland Indians('06-13). He had been
involved in bankrolling several other American League teams also. He
had been born in Wilmingham,OH in 1868 and died Oct.16,1931. I only
need his birth date. I don't need any of the other details of his
colorful career & shenannigans. I can pay $4.00.

Request for Question Clarification by omnivorous-ga on 27 Nov 2002 11:51 PST
Bluestreak and researchers --

Date and year of death are correct here.  Murphy was born in
Wilmington, OH and owned the Chicago Cubs in 1906-1914 before being
forced out of baseball in early 1914.

Murphy's obit lists him as being survived by his wife Louise (in
Chicago) and a brother, John Murphy, of Wilmington, OH.

It must be noted by baseball fans that Murphy owned the team the last
time that they won the World Series -- in 1908.

Best regards,

Omnivorous-GA

Clarification of Question by bluestreak-ga on 27 Nov 2002 13:21 PST
Omnevorous,                                                           
         You are so right. I'm posting too quickly. I'm going to slow
down new entrys until the reseachers have a chance to catch up a
little bit. I've put up 70 questions so far and have about 12 hits so
far. So maybe I'm moving too fast.   Getting back to Murphy, I'd
confused him with Somers, who had bankrolled several teams around
1901-03. Charles Webb Murphy had been a Cincinnati sports writer
previously to getting someone to back him in owning the Cubs.

Request for Question Clarification by omnivorous-ga on 27 Nov 2002 13:47 PST
Blue --

In the interest of not letting information go to waste, his NY Time
obit says:
-- Murphy wrote for the Times-Star, then owned by Charles P. Taft,
brother of the former president
-- in 1904 he went to NY to become publicity director for the NY
Giants
-- Taft helped him appraise the Cubs and advanced him $105,000 to buy
the team, which was losing money under James A. Hart
-- Murphy turned it around so that it was making money by the end of
the year
-- Frank Chance (Tinker, Evers and Chance) was manager and had 10% of
the team, Murphy owning the balance
-- he fell out with Chance, replacing him with Johny Evers as manager
-- but when he replaced Evers with an umpire, Evers began negotiating
with the newly-formed Federal League.  NL managers turned on him and
forced him out, paying him a reported $750,000 for his share.

So endeth my report on the Historical Hot Stove League.

Best regards,

Omnivorous-GA

Clarification of Question by bluestreak-ga on 27 Nov 2002 18:10 PST
Omnivorous,                                                           
         In the interest of not letting good work go unpraised, thank
you for your thorough work. In case any other researchers read these,
I have an average of about 3-4 obits per owner. I make it a practice
to always have the NY Times obit, the Sporting News write-up, the NY
Herald obit(usually much more nuanced & detailed than the NY Times
obits. And the obit for the biggest paper where the owner was located.
It always surprised me when ALL the papers failed to note the Date of
birth.
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