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Subject: Website listing
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: scotland-ga
List Price: $2.00
Posted: 28 Nov 2002 04:34 PST
Expires: 28 Dec 2002 04:34 PST
Question ID: 115913
A friend of mine has got a website called www.thegiftcompany.biz its
an online shopping site that nobody can find, can you help?

Request for Question Clarification by robertskelton-ga on 28 Nov 2002 05:07 PST
Has he submitted his site's URL to any search engines? And if so, how long ago?

Clarification of Question by scotland-ga on 28 Nov 2002 06:47 PST
The website has been submitted to several different search engines
including Google, Yahoo, Lycos, Hot Bot,ETC however you cant even find
it by typing the full URL.

Request for Question Clarification by theta-ga on 28 Nov 2002 07:22 PST
How long ago (months?weeks?) did you submit the website to Google, Yahoo etc ?
Thanks,
Theta-ga

Request for Question Clarification by websearcher-ga on 28 Nov 2002 07:23 PST
Hi scotland:

The URL works fine for me when *I* type it in. Nice site. Is it still
not working for you?

websearcher-ga

Clarification of Question by scotland-ga on 28 Nov 2002 07:41 PST
The website was registered about 3 months and resubmitted once per
month ever since. Its only managed a tiny amount of visitors.

Request for Question Clarification by johnny_phoenix-ga on 28 Nov 2002 08:01 PST
Could you put up a list of the keywords that you are using for your
site at the moment ?

Clarification of Question by scotland-ga on 28 Nov 2002 08:22 PST
The key words used are: -
Gift,Present,Occassion,Birthday,Scottish,Specialist,unusual,Freshly
Caught Fairy Folk,Handblown Glass,Linda Kerr,Pewter,Amber,Handcrafted
Jewellery,Celtic

Does this help?

Request for Question Clarification by aceresearcher-ga on 27 Dec 2002 20:09 PST
scotland,

I'm not sure if "jewellery" is an accepted spelling in the UK; in the
U.S., it is spelled "jewelry", and you will want to include that in
your keywords. Likewise, the correct spelling for "occassion" (at
least in the U.S.) is "occasion", so you will want to correct or
include that as well.

I would be glad to provide you with a number of suggestions to help
your friend improve their website's search listings; however, that is
out of the scope of your question at this price. As your question is
about to expire, if you are interested in receiving an evaluation with
these suggestions, please post a new question specifying that. For
guidelines on how to price Questions, see
https://answers.google.com/answers/pricing.html  

Best wishes!

aceresearcher
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Subject: Re: Website listing
From: funkywizard-ga on 28 Nov 2002 15:38 PST
 
Two places to make sure to be listed to get the attention of other
major search engines, is the open directory [ www.dmoz.org ] and yahoo
[ www.yahoo.com ]. I found that when my website was listed in these
two places, my website went from near invisible on google, to having
first page results for the search terms I was targeting. One website
that helped me submit my site to search engines properly and optimize
my pages so that they would indeed be indexed was [
www.selfpromotion.com ]. I paid for the full service but they have a
nice free trial you can use as well.
Subject: Re: Website listing
From: aditya2k-ga on 28 Nov 2002 15:59 PST
 
Get some sites to link to that site. The fastest way to get into
Google is if you're linked to by a number of sites
Subject: Re: Website listing
From: sparky4ca-ga on 01 Dec 2002 13:26 PST
 
My suggestions:

1) Don't search the search engines by typing in the URL of the site.
This will only find links to sites that include that phrase.

2) Stop resubmitting. To many submits can flag the site as being a
spammer.

3) Submit the site, ONCE, to uk.yahoo.com, google.co.uk, and
msn.co.uk. Often, being listed in one of the reginal sites is much
faster then being added to the main site, however once in the regional
you're almost instantly in thge main one.

4) List in dmoz.org, also a fast track to google listing.

5) Start getting recipricol links in place. The more sites link to
you, the mroe likely you'll get indexed sooner.

Interestingly enough, a search at metacrawler.com for
www.thegiftcompany.biz turns up to hits from shopatworldpay.com, the
first hit reported by Google and FAST, the second only by google.
These 3 results are confirmed by dogpile.com's metasearch. To fnid it
in Google, you have to use quotes around it, otherwise Google looks
for information about your site. So get those link up!!!
Subject: Re: Website listing
From: robertskelton-ga on 01 Dec 2002 14:19 PST
 
I'm totally bamboozled. There is nothing wrong with the site, and I
would even say that from a Google point of view it is flawless.

If the site has been submitted to Google via the Add URL form:
://www.google.com/addurl.html

(and not some dodgy "we'll submit your site to 9,000 search engines
for $50" scheme)

...and it was submitted more than 2 months ago, the only outside
possibilities I can guess at are:

1) Each time the Google spider has visited, the site has been down. 

2) ShoppingatWorldPay.com - It is possible that Google has identified
this site as an automated reciprocal link scheme, because you are
required to link back to them. Google can penalise sites that use such
schemes. Because this is the the only site on the web that links to
The Gift Company, that might be enough for Google to pass on listing
it. Other sites that are in the ShoppingatWorldPay directory probably
have other, quality sites linking to them.

3) He has been using a program like Web Position Gold to check if his
site is on Google yet.

Only guesses - read more at
://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html and the other help
pages found there.

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