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Q: Still need working site to hook me into New York Times from 1939 to present. ( Answered 5 out of 5 stars,   2 Comments )
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Subject: Still need working site to hook me into New York Times from 1939 to present.
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference
Asked by: firebird-ga
List Price: $50.00
Posted: 28 Nov 2002 09:53 PST
Expires: 28 Dec 2002 09:53 PST
Question ID: 116015
In re-reading the first "Answers" to this question through "Google
Answers", I have since called & personally talked w/ the head of the
San Francisco Library News Desk, as well as a representative of
"Proquest", the company who has digitalized the NYTimes from its
inception.  These were the resources given to me by my previous
"Answerer".  The SF Library insists I come in personally in order to
use their in-house computers.  I am not ambulatory.  The Proquest
representative tells me they only sell their database to Educational
Institutions (schools, libraries, etc.,) and NOT to individuals.  I
have DSL.  My iMac has the capacity to SEARCH & DOWNLOAD.  I have yet
to find a way to access FULL New York Times ARTICLES from 1939 on.  I
therefore, once again, open this question up to whomever can follow my
question/need to a WORKABLE, FUNCTIONAL, PROVEN solution.  The reason
I need to be able to access the NYTimes at home in the manner
described is that I am convalescing from cancer.  Therefore, my
psychotherapy practice has come to a standstill for all intents &
purposes, and to stay mentally healthy & creative as I convalesce
I've decided to embark on a novel.  Though it is fiction, I want
events in the piece to be factually accurate.  I want use the Times
articles not only for accuracy but as catalysts for ideas &
inspiration, if & when I need them.  I have arbitrarily chosen 1939 as
the start of the novel because it is the year I was born.  Also, I
have chosen The New York Times because New York is my place of birth,
and The Times is "home" to me.  Note to the "Answerer": I would like
YOU to have SUCCESSFULLY accessed COMPLETE Times articles dating back
to 1939 before providing ME with the "how-to" answer.  Friends will
shortly carry me to a car & drive me to my in-law's house for
Thanksgiving.  I will be back here on Sunday and will further
"clarify" any questions you may have.  Happy Thanksgiving!  firebird

Request for Question Clarification by tar_heel_v-ga on 29 Nov 2002 07:21 PST
Firebird,

I may have found a source that will allow you access to the Proquest
database online.  There will, obviously, be a subscription fee
involved.  How much, if any, would you be willing to pay for access? 
I have also contacted some public librbaries around the country, that
have access to their subscription to Proquest online, to see if there
is a way to allow you access.

Regards,

-THV

Request for Question Clarification by nellie_bly-ga on 29 Nov 2002 13:00 PST
Hi Firebird-

I hope you enjoyed your Thanksgiving weekend.

I have found a source for you to access Proquest Historical
Newspapers.
The information follows.

I am posting this as a "clarification" because I cannot meet your
requirement to try the service myself.  There is a $60 annual
membership fee.
So, once you have verified the information, please let me know if I
may post this as an answer.  Your account will NOT be charged until an
"Answer" is posted.

Here is the information:

The New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, popularly known as
the "G & B," now offers a new high-tech service for members. Any
member of the society can now access the ProQuest® Historical
Newspapers' New York Times Database. There is no need for members to
travel to the society’s headquarters in New York City as they can
access the database from their own PCs at home.
http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/columns/eastman/5913.asp

The New York Genealogical & Biographical Society has now made
ProQuest's
Historical Newspapers' *every-word-searchable* database of The New
York
Times, 1851-1997, available to members via remote access on their home
computers through the website at www.nygbs.org. There is no extra
charge to
members for this extraordinary database.

The database is also available onsite at the New York Public Library
and
other major libraries across the country, if you're interested but not
a G&B
member. Unlike the G&B, NYPL doesn't have the capability of remote
access, so
it must be used there, not via your computer at home. As I understand,
the
G&B is the first genealogical society in the country to have the
database.
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/APG/2002-06/1023648808

G&B Individual Annual Membership: $60.00
An individual annual membership includes a subscription to the Record
and the Newsletter, access to all of the library's collections, remote
access through the NYG&B's website, four free queries per year in the
Newsletter and on our website, discounts on other Society
publications, library services, and educational programs. An
individual member is entitled to one vote at the Society's Annual
Meeting.
http://www.nygbs.org/aboutnygb/membership.html#types

The New York Genealogical and Biographical Society's mailing address
is:
122 East 58th Street, New York, NY 10022-1939 USA
Telephone: 212-755-8532
Fax: 212-754-4218

This sounds like the membership has other research advantages, too.

I look forward to your response.

Nellie Bly

Clarification of Question by firebird-ga on 03 Dec 2002 10:42 PST
To: nellie_bly-ga

You have answered my needs to a "T".  I have been in touch with The
New York Genealogical & Biographical Society.  They confirmed that,
with a membership, I can have access to the ProQuest Historical
Newspapers' New York Times Database.  I can peruse every edition from
1851, look at any article and download it as well.  I just talked with
their membership department and have signed on as a member for two
years.  They will have my name in their database in about three days,
and off I will go!  They will let me know when my membership renewal
fee comes due.  I want to thank you for hanging in there.  Now, I have
a technical question: I don't know the procedure for posting you as
the "Answerer" and for giving you a tip.  Would you communicate with
me via a "clarification" with instructions.  Although I previously
rated and paid someone else for the answer I needed, it was a fluke
that I did so.  Thinking that the answer to my first question was all
I would need, I kept pushing "enter" and rated said 1st answer to my
1st question with five stars.  Please "take me through the process so
that I can attribute your "Answer" to YOU!  Thank you very much. 
firebird

Request for Question Clarification by nellie_bly-ga on 03 Dec 2002 11:29 PST
Hi Firebird--

I'm glad that the G&B will provide the services you want.

As for the "Answer": In order for me to claim the answer and therefore
be paid, I simply need to insert information in the "Answer" space and
submit it, which I shall do

If you are unhappy with a previous answer, you may ask for a refund.
See: Google Answers: Help and Tips
https://answers.google.com/answers/help.html

Before doing that, however, you may wish to give the previous
researcher the opportunity to withdraw his/her answer.  Each option
gives you back your money, but allowing the researcher to withdraw
avoids a negative mark on his/her record.  You can do that by posting
a Request of Question Clarification on the OLD question, which will
cause an email notification to be sent to the researcher.  I suggest
this, because it seemed to me that the previous researcher made a good
faith effort and was caught in a misunderstanding with the SF library.


Nellie Bly
Answer  
Subject: Re: Still need working site to hook me into New York Times from 1939 to present.
Answered By: nellie_bly-ga on 03 Dec 2002 11:32 PST
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
As indicated in your Clarification of Question , I am "answering" your
question with the information posted in my earlier RQC.

Thank you.

Nellie Bly

Request for Answer Clarification by firebird-ga on 03 Dec 2002 16:26 PST
Dear nellie_bly-ga,  I just finished a lovely "comment" on your work
and thought I'd posted a $50 tip to the $50 base that I offered.  I
don't know if either "registered".  My hunch is that the "Google
Answers" people are tired of my e-mailing them questions and
clarifications about this and that.  Have you a way to check whether
my five-star rating for your answer came through; also whether the $50
offered and $50 tip came through?  If neither registered, I don't know
how to rectify it.  Firebird

Clarification of Answer by nellie_bly-ga on 03 Dec 2002 18:28 PST
Firebird,  neither your rating nor your tip has appeared.
However, thank you for your generosity.

Try rating this question once again and not adding a question
clarification or comment. If the rating and tip don't appear tomorrow,
I will contact the Google editors and try to get it straightened out.

You can keep an eye on the question to see if the rating shows up. 
I'll contact you if there is a problem.

Once again, thank you.  I'm glad I could find a NYT connection for
you.  I think it would be great fun to explore those old issues.  Come
back and tell us when your novel is published.

Nellie Bly

Clarification of Answer by nellie_bly-ga on 03 Dec 2002 18:31 PST
Ok   as soon as I submitted the clarification the rating appeared.  So we're fine.

thanks again

Nellie
firebird-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $50.00
Dear nellie_bly-ga   Thank you for  your excellent & clear research to
find exactly what I need.  I called The New York Genealogical and
Biographical Society today.  They confirmed that through their
ProQuest's Historical Newspapers' every-word-searchable database I
will be able to access every daily edition & every article The New
York Times published, from its first edition in 1851 up to 1998, and I
can download and print any article I need.  All that's required is to
become a member for $60/year - a bargain given its use to me.  I
couldn't have wished for more.  Again, my thanks for hanging in there.
 Best to you.  Firebird

Comments  
Subject: Re: Still need working site to hook me into New York Times from 1939 to present.
From: tar_heel_v-ga on 03 Dec 2002 11:57 PST
 
As an aside, I received the following email this morning and wanted to
pass it along.  I am glad nellie-bly met your needs.

"I contacted the San Francisco Public Library and this was their
reply:

We do provide services to homebound San Franciscan patrons:
http://sfpl4.sfpl.org/access_services/Friends.htm

Alternatively, any California resident may obtain a San Francisco
Public
Library Card.  Once they have the card, our Electronic
Resources/Reference
Databases are available to them remotely (from home) via the Internet:

http://sfpl4.sfpl.org/borrower_services/libcard.htm

We do have a version of ABI Inform/Proquest:

ProQuest: Newspapers Full Text HOW TO GET THERE
DESCRIPTION: Full text of 300+ U.S. and international news sources.
Includes
coverage of 150+ major U.S. and international newspapers such as The
New
York Times and the Times of London, plus hundreds of other news
sources and
news wires, including the San Francisco Chronicle. View the title list
for
ProQuest Newsstand (Complete) to see titles and years of coverage.

fev

San Francisco Public Library
Information Services Dept.
100 Larkin Street
San Francisco, CA  94102
415-557-4400"

Just an FYI for you.  Good luck with your book!

-THV
Subject: Re: Still need working site to hook me into New York Times from 1939 to present.
From: firebird-ga on 03 Dec 2002 14:40 PST
 
Dear tar_heel_v-ga:  Thank you for your interest.  Thinking that I may
not have heard what the woman at the SF Library News Desk told me, I
called again today.  I was told that their ProQuest Data for The Times
doen't go beyond 1990; that is, no earlier editions are available. 
They do have The Times on Microfiche, but Microfiche isn't computer
friendly - there's no way to transfer data from Microfiche.  I made
sure to mention that I was house bound.  The answer was the same. 
But, again, thank you for your interest and wishes for my novel! 
firebird

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