Hello 2fromnz,
The actual page content indexed by Google is
in fact just the site's standard HTML index page:
http://www.jochenhoch.de/index.html
This page consists only of the following:
1. A standard HTML 'skeleton'
2. Title, and keyword meta-tags
3. JavaScript
The above represents all the content which
is indexed. As you may well be aware,
you can view the source code from the
'View -> Source' menu in your browser.
The Flash content itself is not indexed,
but is included in the page by the action
of the JavaScript, which checks the
parameters of the viewer's browser, the
type of computer they are using, and
the level of flash support they have,
before automatically writing appropriate
HTML code to invoke the flash content
'on the fly'.
The site's index page does not appear to
be listed in the Google directory under
it's title.
The flash content itself is stored
at the location:
http://www.jochenhoch.de/home1.swf
which is not itself indexed by Google.
Search strategy:
Visit the site concerned, view source code;
Check listings using the Google toolbar.
Google toolbar:
http://toolbar.google.com/
I hope this is helpful to you - If you would like further
information, please do not hesitate to ask me for
clarification, before rating my research.
Best regards,
gan. |
Request for Answer Clarification by
2fromnz-ga
on
06 Dec 2002 11:35 PST
Hi,
Fully agree with your answer and we did as well check out the source.
Unfortunately our site www.netzetera.lu is exactly the same as the
sample we gave (flash in a html page, the whole in a frame) but was
removed from google as soon as we put our flash version online. (1st
version was html)
See here the answer we got time ago from an expert in gogle answers
************quote**********************
Flash is the problem. Most sites that use Flash still get indexed,
because they offer a non-Flash alternative, usually a link at the
bottom of the page saying "HTML version". Google is able to follow
links within Flash elements, but will ignore pages which are entirely
in Flash, as stated by GoogleGuy in this thread at WebmasterWorld:
http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum3/1456.htm
Google would've listed your site when it was non-Flash:
*************end quote ***********************************
tks in advance for clarification,
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Clarification of Answer by
gan-ga
on
07 Dec 2002 00:04 PST
Hi 2fromnz,
I can see a number of changes you should
be able to make and actions you could
follow, in order to hopefully regain a
listing on Google - I'm working on this
now for you & will post again soon.
Best regards,
gan.
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Clarification of Answer by
gan-ga
on
07 Dec 2002 06:59 PST
Hi 2fromnz,
One can never be 100% sure, but I suspect that
the lack of indexable content on your index.htm
page might not be helping. I can see you've added
meta- and title- information, plus a little body
text, but I think more would greatly assist the
search engine spiders in categorising & ranking
your site.
One major difference between your main page, and the site
http://www.jochenhoch.de/ , is in the method of including
the flash content - your page uses frames, whereas the
other site uses JavaScript to dynamically include the
movie. I think it's worth moving away from frames, towards
a style of index page which will allow you much greater scope
to mix indexable and nonindexable content.
I have produced a listing to serve as an
example concerning how you could modify
your main page to improve your chances of
being relisted with a reasonable ranking.
See the following two URLs:
Viewable code:
http://www.beginnerprogrammer.com/googleanswers/netzet/netzet.txt
Working File:
http://www.beginnerprogrammer.com/googleanswers/netzet/netzet.html
This file presents an improved quantity of static
HTML for indexing purposes, which also should be
helpful for visitors or robots who do not have flash,
javascript or frames reading capability, whilst still
presenting the original movie seamlessly to those who
do have the capability.
I'd suggest checking over this file, making modifications
where appropriate, and then installing it as 'index.html',
before resubmitting to the search engines.
Try to include as much relevant textual content, where
indicated in the source code, in order to supply plenty
of information to the indexing robots, not just Google's.
Of course the best content would be popularly-entered
search terms, however it's important to not allow this
to result in a stilted style.
I find the advice at Robert Woodhead's site useful, for
deciding what content is likely to result in the best
levels of traffic:
SelfPromotion.com:
http://www.selfpromotion.com
If you have any further queries, please don't hesitate to
ask; I will be very happy to assist further.
Best regards,
gan.
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