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Subject:
World War I historical sayings
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: stocktonbill-ga List Price: $5.00 |
Posted:
06 Dec 2002 19:38 PST
Expires: 05 Jan 2003 19:38 PST Question ID: 120666 |
What World War I French soldier said "L'avance, l'avance, toujours l'avance!" |
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Subject:
The likely quotation
Answered By: omnivorous-ga on 07 Dec 2002 11:39 PST |
Stocktonbill -- Sometimes a researcher has to sleep on the question before finding a path to a solution. I'd told Justaskscott that I was going to check Gen. George S. Patton's biography because the quotation represented his philosophy of war. So I checked Carlo d'Este's "A Genius for War," Harper-Collins, 1995 and found that Patton kept notecards on his readings, coding things with an "F" when he thought that something was related to future wars and "Q" when he found something worth quoting. As d'Este says, the cornerstone of his generalship was in this note on Frederick the Great: "Ride the enemy to death. L'Audace -- L'Audace -- Tout jour l'Audace." The Prussian king was born in 1712 and was more fluent in French than German. His French portion of the quotation could be translated as "Boldness -- Boldness -- Each day boldness." There are excellent websites with his biography including: M. Munger "Frederick the Great" (2002) http://www.cyberboss.net/history/frederickthegreat.html Also several pages on his battles and detailed orders to both officers and troops: Ed Allen "Federick the Great's Military Instructions" (Jan. 27, 1997) http://tetrad.stanford.edu/Frederick.html http://tetrad.stanford.edu/hm/FredMaps.html Google search strategy: "Frederick the Great" + "l'audace" Often researchers find that quotations they find are a bit different than what is being sought. I hope that we've met you requirements here. Best regards, Omnivorous-GA |
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Re: World War I historical sayings
From: justaskscott-ga on 06 Dec 2002 21:12 PST |
I have not found this quotation (from any time period) after looking on several search engines. The closest I have found is an order during World War I to "advance, advance at any cost" (my translation), but the phrase is not put in quotation marks, which may mean that it was not said that way; moreover, it is not attributed to a particular soldier. If you are interested in that phrase, I could post it as an answer, but I suppose that you would want to see if another Researcher can find the phrase you want first. |
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Re: World War I historical sayings
From: omnivorous-ga on 06 Dec 2002 22:01 PST |
Stocktonbill -- The saying appears associated with several French and English historical figures. It is often thought to be associated with Marechal Foch, a French WWI general, because of his strong attitudes towards offense (and another quotation). The more appropriate English translation of the French is "Attack, attack, always attack." Best regards, Omivorous-GA |
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