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Subject: Copy of civil war map and location of Historical Place in proximity to battle
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: ans25-ga
List Price: $15.00
Posted: 14 Dec 2002 12:15 PST
Expires: 13 Jan 2003 12:15 PST
Question ID: 124655
On May 30,1864 US Brig. Gen. Alfred Tolbert's forces engaged CS Brig.
Gen.
Matthew Buler's forces near Old Church, VA and drove them back along
the road to Old Cold Habor. This battle allowed Sheridan to capture
these important crossroads the next day.  The Clover Lea Plantation
which is listed as a Historical Place was in the vicinity of the
battle.  Where can
I PURCHASE A COPY OF THE BATTLE MAP FOR THIS BATTLE AND APPROXIMATELY
where is Clover
Lea Plantation located in reference to the battle? Map will be a xmass gift for son.

Request for Question Clarification by saxifrage-ga on 14 Dec 2002 14:37 PST
Hi ans25!

Thanks for providing so many details about the battle -- makes it
easier for us!

I've sent e-mail to someone who sells Civil War battle maps to see if
he carries maps of this particular battle. I will let you know as soon
as I hear anything back.

--saxifrage

Clarification of Question by ans25-ga on 14 Dec 2002 17:29 PST
THERE SEEMS TO BE NO QUESTION CLARIFICACATION REQUESTED?
ans25-ga

Request for Question Clarification by rainbow-ga on 15 Dec 2002 05:50 PST
Hi ans,
I haven't yet found any maps for the specific area you are interested
in for purchase, but I have located cd roms which include "Over 200
Civil War Maps in "Tif" & "Gif" format . Maps can be saved in these
formats: JPG, PCX, GIF, TIF, WMF. Battlefield, Region, Troop Movement
, Military Maps, and Approaches & Defenses. Some of States included
are TN, GA, MD, SC, NC, VA, MS, AR, FL, IL, KY, and D.C"
You will be able to print out these maps after saving.
If you're interested in something like this for a gift, let me know.
Meanwhile, I'll keep searching for the map.
Regards,
rainbow~

Clarification of Question by ans25-ga on 15 Dec 2002 07:38 PST
A  FEW ADDITIONAL FACTS THAT MAY HELP YOU. THE BATTLE IN QUESTION WAS
A PART OF GEN. GRANT'S OVERLAND CAMPAIGN IN MAY-JUNE 1864.  THE TWO
BRIGADE SIZE ARMIES WERE STALEMATED ALONG THE TOTOPOTOMOY CREEK LINE,
THE FEDERAL CAVALRY BEGAN PROBING EAST AND SOUTH AND ATTACKED ON MAY
30, WITH TORBERT DEFEATING BUTLER NEAR OLD CHURCH, HANOVER COUNTY VA. 
OLD CHURCH WAS ALSO KNOWN AS MATADEQUIN CREEK. THERE WERE 900
CASUALTIES.
NOT SURE I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN CD.

ans25-ga
Answer  
Subject: Re: Copy of civil war map and location of Historical Place in proximity to battle
Answered By: hlabadie-ga on 15 Dec 2002 16:58 PST
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
That would be Gen. Alfred T.A. Torbert (not Tolbert) and Gen. M.
Calvin Butler (4th S.C.) (not Buler). Torbert's cavalry was attacked
by the Confederate cavalry at 2. P.M. May 30 at Old Church and fought
until 5 P.M. Torbert moved at 5 A.M. toward Old Cold Harbor on the
following morning and attacked, driving them back upon their infantry.

Torbert appears in a group photograph of Sheridan and his generals,
reproduced in Battles and Leaders of the Civil War, vol IV, page 192,
Yoseloff, New York, 1956. An account of the engagement appears on page
193 of that volume.

Butler gives an account of his command at Trevilian Station in the
same volume, page 238, in which he again was opposed, in part, by
Torbert. A portrait of Butler can be found on page 534 of the above
volume and at:

http://www.awod.com/gallery/probono/cwchas/hamcover.htm

Clover Lea Plantation is located near Mechanicsville. It does appear
to have been close to the action between Torbert and Butler, as
Mechanicsville was on the Old Church Road at the time.

http://www.nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com/VA/Hanover/state.html


Clover Lea ** (added 1979 - Building - #79003045) 
E of Mechanicsville off VA 629, Mechanicsville 

Historic Significance: 
Architecture/Engineering 
Architect, builder, or engineer: 
Unknown 
Architectural Style: 
Greek Revival 
Area of Significance: 
Architecture 
Period of Significance: 
1825-1849 
Owner: 
Private 
Historic Function: 
Domestic 
Historic Sub-function: 
Single Dwelling 
Current Function: 
Domestic 
Current Sub-function: 
Single Dwelling 

The general area would be near Bethesda Church (in blue, upper right
on the map below):

http://www.nps.gov/rich/ri_auto2.htm

The Hanover County Historical Society:

Hanover County Historical Society
P.O. Box 91
Hanover 23069

The home would near or on the Richmond National Battlefield Park:

Obtaining maps:

http://www.nps.gov/rich/ri_info.htm

and 

http://www.nps.gov/rich/pphtml/print.html

which says, in part:

Getting Around
Park rangers will provide maps for touring the battlefields. 

Richmond National Battlefield Park 
3215 E. Broad Street 
Richmond, VA 23223 
(804) 226-1981 
(804) 771-8522 FAX 
e-mail: Mike_Andrus@nps.gov

If the NPS can't provide a map that is appropriate, they can suggest a
better source. The Army Corps of Engineers prepared a map in 1867,
which is available from the Library of Congress.

http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/d?gmd:20:./temp/~ammem_avAy:

Civil War Maps Home, LOC:

http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/gmdhtml/cwmhtml/cwmhome.html

Reproductions of maps can be ordered by following the instructions at:

http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/gmdhtml/gmdorder.html

Unfortunately, this can take between three and six weeks.

The maps can be downloaded from the LOC site, however.

hlabadie-ga
ans25-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $5.00
PULLED IT TOGETHER VERY WELL AND COVERED MY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AND NOW
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Comments  
Subject: Re: Copy of civil war map and location of Historical Place in proximity to ba
From: saxifrage-ga on 16 Dec 2002 09:57 PST
 
Hi ans25 --

I see you've got your answer, but I thought I'd pass along what I
heard from the bookstore in case you're interested:

Have book - Battle Cold Harbor (part of the VA Battles & Leaders 
Series) , which includes numerous maps and about 14 references to this
battle
($22.50 plus $4 U.S. Shipping)  - details follow - Clayton

Baltz, Louis J. III THE BATTLE OF COLD HARBOR - MAY 27 - JUNE 13, 1864
 H. E.
Howard  1561900605  2ND EDITION - Biblio - Maps - Photos - Brand New 
Hardcover           Civil War       Publisher List Price= $25      
Our
Price=$22.50    Shipping=$4   

The website for this seller is
http://www.civilwarmall.com/bookseller/files/maps1.htm .

--saxifrage

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