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Subject: literature
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Books and Literature
Asked by: lulu222-ga
List Price: $30.00
Posted: 16 Dec 2002 11:58 PST
Expires: 15 Jan 2003 11:58 PST
Question ID: 125520
I have a quote from a book but don't know the title nor author because
it is a poem and only a page torn out of the book.
The first part of the poem is,"I shall come into your room, As if
yesterday were today, And we shall talk together, As if you had not
gone away.
Further down the page is part of the story mentioning characters as
Aunt Stell and Max. Hope you can find who wrote the poem. Thanks

Request for Question Clarification by xargon-ga on 16 Dec 2002 20:25 PST
Are you sure the character's name is "Aunt Stell" as opposed to "Aunt Stella"?

Clarification of Question by lulu222-ga on 17 Dec 2002 10:59 PST
question#125520
the character in the book may be named stella but in the dialogue, the
speaker refers to her as Aunt Stell. That part reads as follows:
"...my mother died, Aunt Stell had been there when...
to offer comfort. I thought of her as Max read, and the...
my cheeks under the wet cloth that was no longer ...
ing. I couldn't have said whether they were tears for..."
All this in incomplete because it is a torn page. On the back is
another poem:
Like water I came;
Like water I am,
In shallows, speading thin;
In borrowed depths, quiet,
Holding in shimmering crystal 
The mystery of life,
The wonderment of what and why.
In restless I run,
The rapids are wild and churning and roar
As I fling myself on the rcks below.

Then some more words regarding Max:
"... to the familiar words, the turbulent thoughts sub...
Max's low voice drew me away from one pain, but..."

Back to the more important poem on the other side, I will put it in
its entirety:
I shall come into your room
As if yesterday were today,
And we shall talk together
As if you had not gone away.

We shall not speak of parting-
This day will be too bright for grief-
We shall guard each short minute,
Knowing Time is a clever thief.

I shall feel your angel touch
(Your quick, glad clasp) become real
And I shall dream happily,
With memories Time cannot steal.

And though I may not follow 
Your gentle wandering through the spheres,
Alone, I shall remember,
Remember through tomorrow's years.

Hope this helps!

Request for Question Clarification by saxifrage-ga on 17 Dec 2002 12:40 PST
Hi, lulu222 --

Do you have any sense from the page you have how old the book might
be? Is it a recent book, or an old one? This might help researchers
narrow down their targets.

Thanks!

--saxifrage

Request for Question Clarification by xargon-ga on 17 Dec 2002 14:23 PST
Also, if a page number appears on your page it might be helpful to know.

Clarification of Question by lulu222-ga on 18 Dec 2002 12:33 PST
There isn't a page number on the torn page; it came from a paperback,
I believe one of those usual 4 inch by 7 inch size and came from the
estate of a man who was impeccably educated and well traveled.

Clarification of Question by lulu222-ga on 03 Jan 2003 07:36 PST
It has been two weeks since I have heard from you regarding my
question #125520.  Does this mean that you have given up or just that
everyone took the holidays off?  I didn't realize that this would be
so difficult, but it was important to me, important to find out.  I
appreciate your hard work and still hopt it is not an impossibility. 
Thanks and happy 2003.

Request for Question Clarification by pinkfreud-ga on 03 Jan 2003 09:27 PST
Lulu,

Please don't think we are ignoring you; I have noticed that, over the
past few weeks, many Researchers have locked your question in order to
research it, and each later released the lock after having failed to
locate information about the poem which you seek. I spent several
hours on this myself, and I didn't find anything useful. Your question
will continue to be active until January 15th, and it is possible that
a Researcher who recognizes your poem, or who has access to sources
not available to the rest of us, may be able to give you an answer.
Recently a difficult question was answered by one of the very best
Researchers when only one minute remained until the question's
expiration time!

If you can remember anything more about the poem, no matter how
trivial it may seem, please tell us. Sometimes odd little clues lead
to answers!

Best wishes,
pinkfreud

Clarification of Question by lulu222-ga on 04 Jan 2003 06:59 PST
Dear Pinkfreud-re. the poem, "I shall come into your room,"...there
are a lot of "shall"s in this so I am going to date this from the 40's
or 50's and Southern, maybe faded gentility, educated but not wealthy,
probably a female writer, perhaps a Eudora Welty-type -something to
say in a dreamy way-... the problem is that I am constantly reading
but generally nonfiction, history, biography ... I just don't know my
fictional characters very well. I just thought there would be a data
base with a list of authors, then a listing of the characters in their
books, viola! When I put in "William Faulkner," I got a site that
talked about a "place-name glossary." No, I didn't think it is a
Faulkner-type piece, but I was just looking in a Southern direction. 
Let me know what you think. Thanks ... Lulu
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Subject: Re: literature
From: tehuti-ga on 04 Jan 2003 07:25 PST
 
Hello Lulu,

I've also made several attempts to hunt for the source of this poem. 
Among other things, I tried searching Literature Online, which is a
proprietary database of poetry and prose works, but drew a blank even
there.

Sorry
Subject: Re: literature
From: bcguide-ga on 04 Jan 2003 10:01 PST
 
Hi,

This site has an Aunt Stell and a Max. It's a family history/old
journal page and doesn't mention the poem, but might be a lead to who
wrote it.
http://198.252.46.99/Gx/CL/9.HTML

Good luck,
bcguide-ga
Subject: Re: literature
From: figure8out-ga on 16 Jan 2003 18:08 PST
 
It says 'expired' so I hope I can post here.  Anyway, in Andre
Messager's light opera 'Veronique' there are characters named Max and
Aunt 'Estelle.'  So, perhaps, 'Aunt Stell' isn't a familiarization of
'Stella', but of Estelle?  I was unable to find much more information
about Messager's work.  Given all the minutiae and arcanum on the web
there still is not a whole lot about minor French operetta. (Alas!) 
Nevertheless, perhaps this is an adaptation--or maybe even a
translation?--of Veronique?  It seems too expository to be the
libretto itself, but maybe a 'Stories of the Light Operas?' type of
book? The poem doesn't seem necessarily frothy enough to be from an
operetta, but maybe in context it would seem different. This may prove
to be a red herring rather than a viable clue, but it's at least worth
a look into.  Good luck to you on your search!

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