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Q: French porcelain, ca. 1740 ( Answered 5 out of 5 stars,   0 Comments )
Subject: French porcelain, ca. 1740
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference
Asked by: 3answers-ga
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Posted: 16 Dec 2002 19:25 PST
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Question ID: 125764
I have a vase I am told is French porcelain, Mennely, Seine-et-oise,
France, c. 1740.  Is Mennely a place or factory? Seine-et-oise sounds
like a place. The mark imprinted in the porcelain on the base looks
like D V.  Is there anything I can learn about this vase's maker?
It has a flower and fruit design on a white background.

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Subject: Re: French porcelain, ca. 1740
Answered By: read2live-ga on 17 Dec 2002 22:43 PST
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
Hello there!

An interesting question, with many contradictory twists, a neat
research puzzle!  I found my entry to the first part of the answer in
a book in my local library: "Marks and monograms on European and
oriental pottery and porcelain" by William Chaffers (Los Angeles:
Borden Publishing, ca 1930).

This was the vital clue: it established that it is not "Mennely" but
"Mennecy". It is a factory.

The entry reads: "MENNECY VILLEROY (Seine-et-Oise). This important
manufactory was established in 1735 by Francois Barbin under the
patronage of the Duc de Villeroy, at a spot called 'Les Petits
Maisons' on the Duke's estate ... (Barbin) was succeeded about 1748 by
Messieurs Jacques and Jullien, and the manufactory continued in a
flourishing state until 1773, when, on the expiration of the lease, it
was removed to Bourg-la-Reine.  The mark (on the porcelain) is usually
D.V. impressed."

It seems clear that the D.V. stands for Duc de Villeroy.

The above is confirmed by a Google search for “Francois Barbin” and
Villeroy, which led, amongst other hits, to the page “Mennecy
Porcelain Manufactory” at

Interestingly, another page, Mennecy pot pourri at
states that Barbin moved his factory from Rue de Charonne to the
duke’s estate around 1748.  Francois Barbin was succeeded by his son
Jean Baptist Barbin in 1750, and Jullien and Jacques took over in 1765
until the factory moved in 1773.

The search also brings up several sites in French. The page "Texte
porcelaine tendre francaise" includes two representations of the D.V.
impression  <>.

It is worth noting that in Google, diacriticals are now critical.  My
first search for “Francois Barbin” and Villeroy brought up no hits. 
It was not until I inserted a c+cedilla in Francois that I got hits.

Hope this helps you.  It sounds as if you could have a valuable piece
of porcelain there!

Best wishes, Read2live.
3answers-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $2.00
A very complete and happy ending to my query.  The fact that
additional sites were given, along with straightening out a spelling
error in a vital noun in my original query, rates a BIG A+.

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