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Subject: Outlook Express hanging up with Internet Explorer
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: doug7870-ga
List Price: $15.00
Posted: 17 Dec 2002 15:13 PST
Expires: 16 Jan 2003 15:13 PST
Question ID: 126194
You did so well on my last question I am trying you again!
I have Windows 98 with updates and IE 6.0 with internet tools.
After being in Microsoft IE online and calling up Outlook Express, my
computer can hang up and I have had the following error messages
several times:

Exception has occurred in OE 0028:C0019B70 in VxD---.  Called from
0028:C0019B70 in VxD NDIS(01) + 000020BC

At least once the message has been:

Fatal exception OE occurred at 0028:C0003E8C in VXD VMM(01) 00002E8C

I have used the Internet Explorer repair function in ADD/REMOVE
programs, but to no avail.

I usually have to reboot the computer manually, because
ctrl/alt/delete is also hung up.

theta-ga answered my last question on 16 December 2002 and I used Host
files to remove an entry which cleared my problem.

doug7870-ga
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Subject: Re: Outlook Express hanging up with Internet Explorer
Answered By: answerguru-ga on 17 Dec 2002 19:49 PST
Rated:3 out of 5 stars
 
Hi doug7870-ga,

This was certainly a tricky one, but I believe I have found the
solution to your problem and the diagnosis may not be as good as you
would have liked.

I started with a simple Google search which yielded a discussion board
hit of someone with the same problem as yours. The first response to
this question was as follows:

"It means that when you installed Outlook Express, it replaced one or
more files with some of it's own, and the new file won't work with the
rest of the system. If you can find the file, try putting the old one
back in and see if your mail works. Go to Microsoft's site and look
for article "Article ID: Q137335" which tells you how to track down
those errors. If you have Win98, use it's troubleshooter to find
replaced or changed files with the date you installed Outlook Express.
Good luck."

Like an obedient researcher I complied, and acquired the knowledge
base article that had been referenced:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;137335&

In essence, the problem you are encountering can be described as
follows:

"Normally, an Invalid Dynamic Link Call error message is the result of
an incompatibility between driver versions, or a damaged or missing
driver. Try uninstalling and then reinstalling any programs or
components that you installed recently (before the error message
occurred). The error message stated above may occur because your
computer is configured incorrectly. This may be due to a device driver
that was added or removed recently."

They continue with ways to determine how to identify this problem, and
I used the values you provided as follows:

0028 - this is the driver ID causing the problem, and the driver name
is NDIS, which is the NDIS wrapper

VMM(01) 00002E8C - this is the eight-character sequence of letters and
numbers that references your device driver. The error occurs because
the system is referencing an invalid location, and so the identity of
the driver cannot be determined.

Since we now know the NDIS driver is the problematic one, we need to
check the table in the knowledge base article to determine which
"group" it is in - checking this shows that this is a Windows 9x
driver. The article suggests you remove the program associated with
the driver (which in your case is equivalent to removing Windows).
They do state, however, that windows drivers *could* be fixed using
the "verify installation" option in your Windows installation CD.

"If the driver that needs to be replaced is one of the Windows 9x
standard drivers, run Windows 9x Setup again, and choose to verify the
installation."

Therefore, in your case you should do the following:

1. Attempt to use the Verify Installation option in your Windows 98
installation CD to fix all invalid links.
2. If this does not solve the problem, you will need to reinstall
Windows completely.

I know this may have been a bit difficult to follow, so if you have
trouble understanding any of the information above feel free to post a
clarification :)

Cheers!

answerguru-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by doug7870-ga on 17 Dec 2002 22:36 PST
Thanks for your research.  
However, I cannot find the Verify Installation option on either my
Windows 98 CD or the Dell Dimension Resource CD.

That am I doing wrong?

doug7870.ga

Clarification of Answer by answerguru-ga on 17 Dec 2002 22:57 PST
Hi again,

No, you are not doing anything wrong...from the MS documentation it
appeared that this feature was available on Windows 9x installation
discs, but it actually is only applicable to drivers associated with
other software/hardware but not Windows itself. Therefore the only
option is to reinstall Windows...sorry to be the bearer of bad news
but there is no way around this :(

answerguru-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by doug7870-ga on 18 Dec 2002 15:55 PST
I contacted Dell Technical Support, and got a lady from India, who
explained that there was no Verify Installation option, as you
replied, and also said that I should reinstall Windows 98.  I did not
want to do this if there was any other way to solve the problem.  I
read the "Outlook Express hanging up with Internet Explorer" reply
given to expensiveanswers-ga, and tried to follow that advise.  The
first thing I learned is that you cannot remove references to Outlook
Express in Internet Explorer - Tools - Options - Programs as
suggested.  However, I went to Add/Remove Programs and removed Outlook
Express 6, though Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools was left
alone.  I rebooted my computer and found that Outlook Express 5 was
now installed, and there was no reference to either Outlook Express 5
or 6 in the Add/Remove Programs window.  I searched my files for
Outlook Express 5 and found several files including the exe program
and updates.  Outlook Express 6 no longer was in any files.  So I am
now running Outlook Express 5 with Internet Explorer 6 and Internet
Tools, and have had no problems!  Before doing these things, I ran
Internet Explorer without Outlook Express for five hours, even behind
a firewall on a secure site, and had no problems, which is why I
proceeded with the action I have related.  Is something peculiar going
on?  How can I run Outlook Express 5 with Internet Explorer 6 and
Internet tools?  Why is Outlook Express 5 not on my Add/Remove
programs window?  If you need more money to answer these questions,
let ne know.  But as I have my computer presently configured, there
are no more problems (so far!) --

Thanks.

Clarification of Answer by answerguru-ga on 18 Dec 2002 16:26 PST
I believe I understand why this happened...when you upgrade to version
6 of IE/Outlook Express/Tools, Outlook Express 6 did not agree with
your Windows driver that we have previously identified and was
therefore giving you the errors you encountered. It seems likely that
OE6 was installed on top of OE5 and some of the configuration settings
were meshed together and called OE6 in your Add/Remove programs list.

When you uninstalled OE6 from your system, you "unregistered" OE
altogether but left behind the program files for OE5! It is definitely
a peculiar situation but after all it is Microsoft :)

As far as payment goes, if you feel your questions have been answered
you can just leave whatever tip you feel is appropriate renumeration
:)

answerguru-ga
doug7870-ga rated this answer:3 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $2.00
answerguru-ga did a good job but I finally solved the problem myself
without having to reinstall Windows 98 which would have been
monstrous!  Reinstalling Windows 98 solves all problems, usually, but
leaves you stranded.  It is the easiest way to solve problems and some
of the Dell technicians when frustrated use it as the answer.  I have
never had to reinstall Windows 98 because I have persisted in pursuing
problems to their resolution despite the odds.  However, answerguru-ga
was patient and did provide useful information.

Comments  
Subject: Re: Outlook Express hanging up with Internet Explorer
From: expensiveanswers-ga on 18 Dec 2002 03:00 PST
 
Try this: 1) If you are using MS Outlook, go to Internet Explorer -
Tools - Internet Options - Programs and remove all references to
Outlook Express. 2) Go to Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs -
Windows Setup, find and remove Outlook Express. 3)Restart your PC and
see if your problem has been resolved. 4) You can re-install Outlook
Express by using Step 2. Good luck!

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