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Q: How can I get knighted ( Answered,   1 Comment )
Subject: How can I get knighted
Category: Relationships and Society > Law
Asked by: kman-ga
List Price: $2.00
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 08:57 PST
Expires: 18 Jan 2003 08:57 PST
Question ID: 126906
I would like to get knighted. How do I do it? I'm interested in this
mostly for fun. I would prefer a method that would be difficult to
qualify for as opposed to simply paying for it, or getting it as a
political favor.

Request for Question Clarification by scriptor-ga on 19 Dec 2002 09:02 PST
Dear kman,

Do you have the knighthood of a specific country in mind? Like
England, Spain, Denmark?


Clarification of Question by kman-ga on 19 Dec 2002 09:15 PST
I don't have a specific country in mind, but would prefer an english
speaking country over others. My other countries by language would be:
german or similar, japanese, sweedish, finland,... I would like to
stay away from countries like Turkey and Greece, I don't want to
offend any more people, so I'll refrain from mentioning others.
Subject: Re: How can I get knighted
Answered By: politicalguru-ga on 19 Dec 2002 09:40 PST
Dear kman, 

There are several ways in which you could get knighted. There are
knights who belong to particular order, and by joining this order
become knights; there are also knights who are nominated by monarchs.
It is naturally easy to be eligable for knighthood in an organisation.

Despite our Romantic image of a knight in the olden days, a Canadian
school explains that "Only the wealthy nobles could afford the armor
and weapons needed to become a knight."
( Another site marks,
that "Different kings were taking money from people by taxing them so
they can get money for the squire to become a knight." (Source:

Both sites make it clear, that the way to be knighted began at the age
of seven, and was very hard, and only the rich became knights at the
end of it. Oh, the olden days. In these days, actually, even people
like Michael Cane or John Lennon, who did not stem from rich families,
could become knights if they done something remarkable (like smoking
pot the the Queen's toilets, which is what John and Paul reportedly
have done).

The conditions to become a "Knight of Gaia" are: "If you have done
nonviolent direct action (NVDA) for your chosen cause, against your
chosen 'dragon', and can show evidence of it in (such as newspaper
articles, and/or websites), and your efforts are serious (such as
protest camping, persistent NVDA, and/or risking arrest) you would
qualify." (Source: Knights of

The "NOBLE ORDER OF THE PEACE SHIELD TEMPLARS" has also many tasks for
the future knight, as you can read in this page

The Knights of Columbus, are a Catholic organisation. Their conditions
are more restrictive and less fitting the honour of killing a dragon:
"There are only two requirements for a man to join the Knights of
Columbus: that he be a practical Catholic as understood by the Church,
and that he be 18 years of age or older." (Source: Knights of
Columbus: If you're a Buddhist
woman, I see that as a problem. There are also other Catholic orders,
such as the Knights of Malta, and Knight of the Holy Sepulchre, both
of which have to invite you (as a Catholic, who is prominent in some
way). In order to become a Knight Templar, you have to "To petition a
Commandery of Knights Templar for membership, you must first be a
member of a Masonic Lodge and a Royal Arch Chapter.  To petition a
Commandery one must profess a belief in the Christian Religion."

You could also be knighted by a monarch, like Paul, John, George and
Ringo. A British MP, Paul Flynn, wrote a guide on how to be knighted:

"Knighthoods are bestowed as a badge of mediocrity for undistinguished
long service.

To malcontent political opponents to annoy their leaders

To reinforce subservience to royalty

To silence aspiring rebels

To coax the clapped-out to retire

To punish independent MPs by exclusion

To partial civil servants who are 'one of us'

Because everyone 'likes his wife'" 

In other words, if you're British, the easiest way would be to run for
Parliament, pose a threat to the Throne and to social order in
general, be mediocre, and you get knighted. You could also form the
Beatles, or something of the kind.

You might be further interested in
this free newsgroup on knighthood.

"how to be knighted"
"how to become a knight" 
"how to get knighted" 

I hope that answered your question. If you need any clarifications,
please contact me. I'd be pleased to answer your clarification
requests before you rate the answer.

Request for Answer Clarification by kman-ga on 19 Dec 2002 13:52 PST
You don't need to answer further, $2.00 doesn't warrent more, I was
already familiar with the history of knighthood, and most of the links
referenced. I already am a third level Knight of Columbus. I wanted to
join a group for bragging purposes. If there was a group that for
example required members be in the top 10% IQ, be physically fit and
devoted to a noble(subjective, I know) cause, I would be interested.

Clarification of Answer by politicalguru-ga on 20 Dec 2002 03:58 PST
Have you considered joining MENSA? This is a society of those who
prove higher IQ (see as the rest of the

As for "noble" purposes, the Gaia knighthood is the only one I'd think
might fit that (of the ones I mentioned).

I would also like to thank southof40-ga for their comment. You learn
something new every day (truthfully, I didn't check the details on the
Beatles, only leaning on my memory, which seems to be getting worse as
I am getting old).

Request for Answer Clarification by kman-ga on 20 Dec 2002 04:18 PST
Yes I have joined Mensa(top 2%) and Intertel(top 1%). There is never a
dull conversation in those groups. I guess, if you took mensa +
physically active(say rock climbing) + a direction, that would be
pretty enjoyable. Since there may be no knighthoods of sufficient
difficulty, perhaps I'll start one myself.

Clarification of Answer by politicalguru-ga on 20 Dec 2002 06:48 PST
You echo my thoughts, offering to establish one yourself. Except for
the physical and mental activities themselves, from which you and the
other members would benefit, it would be a social contribution on your
behalf, which is part of being a knight, isn't it?
Subject: Re: How can I get knighted
From: southof40-ga on 19 Dec 2002 14:08 PST
Just for the record - to date none of John Lennon, Ringo Starr or
George Harrison have been knighted.

Paul McCartney has a 'K' but he only got it in 1997. The purported
dope smoking in the loos (rest rooms) of Buckingham Palace was on the
occassion of all four of them being awarded the OBE (basically a medal
- definitely not a knighthood).

As far as getting a British Knighthood bestowed you should be aware
before putting too much effort into it that although you can hold the
title you cannot use 'Sir' unless you are British.

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