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Q: How to get Mongolian consular services in Macau? ( Answered 5 out of 5 stars,   3 Comments )
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Subject: How to get Mongolian consular services in Macau?
Category: Relationships and Society > Law
Asked by: spurious-ga
List Price: $20.00
Posted: 21 Dec 2002 10:24 PST
Expires: 20 Jan 2003 10:24 PST
Question ID: 132188
Help! A friend of mine is in a fair bit of trouble:

> Mongolian citizen travelling under Mongolian passport.
> Entered Macau (Special Administrative Region of Peoples' Republic of
China) legally on a tourist visa.
> ***Passport has been stolen.***
> Therefore stuck in Macau and desperate to get home.
> Can't speak English, Portuguese or Chinese.
> Very limited funds available.
> No Mongolian embassy in Macau, nor consular services as far as I can
tell.
> Needs passport to leave Macau S.A.R. (so can't leave Macau to seek
embassy or consular services elsewhere in China).

Summary: Deeply scr*w*d.

I'll be happy to answer any clarifications.

I'll pay the basic $20 for any answer that materially helps the
position, but an answer that saves the day will find me very grateful
indeed.

Please post comments if you have _anything_ to add. I'm practical.
Answering the question in a comment won't affect how I rate or pay for
the answer.

spurious-ga
Answer  
Subject: Re: How to get Mongolian consular services in Macau?
Answered By: scriptor-ga on 21 Dec 2002 12:26 PST
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Dear spurious,

Since your friend is travelling under Mongolian passport, I assume he
is also a Mongolian national and his native (and obviously only)
language is Mongolian. In that case, the chance of quickly finding a
person who speaks Mongolian and can help him is, indeed, very small
and virtually non-existant. I also found confirmed your assumption
that there is no embassy, consul or other representative of Mongolia
in Macau. The nearest Consulate General of Mongolia is located in Hong
Kong, but how can your friend get there to obtain a new passport or at
least provisional documents?

This is really a very complex problem. But after some research I found
out that the government of Macau has foreseen that such problems may
arise and provides a solution.

The Migration Office ("Serviço de Migração") of Macau writes on its
websites the following (translated from Portugese):

"The Migration Office helps in cases where foreign travel documents
have been lost. In such cases, a 'Declaration of Loss' including data
is emitted for a limited period of validity, so that foreign citizens
owning this 'Declaration' can travel to neighboring Hong Kong. There,
they can frequent their respective consulates to get new travel
documents. In cases where foreign citizens can't wait in Hong Kong for
the emission of their new documents, the validity of the 'Declaration
of Loss' is extended until there is permission to resume the journey."

"The foreign visitor can ask for the emission of 'Declaration of
Document Loss' in case the passport is stolen, to facilitate leaving
Macau for the respective consulate in Hong Kong in order to wait the
emission of a new document. (...) Formalities: To obtain the
'Declaration', it is necessary to report the loss to the police. They
will hand out a document confirming the complaint. This document,
together with three photographs, must be brought to the Section of
Inquiry of the Migration Office for verification purposes. After these
verification formalities, the 'Declaration of Document Loss' will be
emitted by the Commissariat of the Foreigners of the same office.
(...) Stated periods of Validity: Generally, the stated period of the
validity of the 'Declaration of Loss' emitted for owners of passports
and the like is 7 days."

The Migration Office of Macau is located in the following street in
Macau: "Travessa de Amizade".

Here are the two most important original Portugese terms your friend
should know for these formalities:

"Declaration of Document Loss" - "Declaração de Extravio de
Documentos"
"Migration Office" - "Serviço de Migração"
"Commisariat of the Foreigners" - "Comissariado do Estrangeiros"

I also recommend that your friend should write the following texts on
paper and carry them with him. It is not perfect, but it should help
avoiding confusion:

(For reporting the loss of his passport at the police)
"Eu sou mongolian. Eu não falo o chinês, o inglês ou o português. Meu
passport foi roubado. Confirme por favor que eu lhe relatei esta
perda, assim que eu posso ir ao Serviço de Migração começar um
Declaração de Extravio de Documentos. Meu dados pessoais: (Insert name
etc. here). Obrigado."

In English: "I am Mongolian. I do not speak Chinese, English or
Portugese. My passport has been stolen. Please confirm that I reported
this loss to you, so I can go to the Migration Office to get a
Declaration of Document Loss. My personal data: (Insert name etc.
here). Thank you."

(For requesting the Declaration at the Migration Office)
"Eu sou mongolian. Eu não falo o chinês, o inglês ou o português. Meu
passport foi roubado. Eu relatei a perda às polícias. Está aqui o
original que as polícias me deram. Eu necessito um Declaração de
Extravio de Documentos porque eu devo viajar a Hong Kong para começar
originais novos do curso no consulate mongolian. Dê-me por favor
também uma observação que eu posso mostrar no Comissariado do
Estrangeiros mais atrasado. Obrigado."

In English: "I am Mongolian. I do not speak Chinese, English or
Portuguese. My passport has been stolen. I reported the loss to the
police. Here is the document the police gave me. I need a Declaration
of Document Loss because I must travel to Hong Kong to get new travel
documents at the Mongolian consulate. Please give me also a notice I
can show at the Commissariat of the Foreigners later. Thank you."

This is, I admit, not too elegant. But the officials should understand
it without any problems, and it should help your friend getting to
Hong Kong to the Mongolian Consulate General. Once he is in Hong Kong,
he will find the consulate here:

Honorary Consul of Mongolia
Rm 1207, Kadak Building, Tower 2
321 Java Road, Quarry Bay
Hong Kong
Phone: 29042435

Sources:

Official Cityguide for Macau: Serviço de Migração - Loss of Documents
(in Portuguese!)
http://www.cityguide.gov.mo/psp/detail_p.asp?lkey=01080000000000000000&lc=0

Migration Office of Macau (in Portuguese!)
http://www.fsm.gov.mo/psp/sm/p_default.htm

Government Information Bureau of Macau: Foreign Consulates
http://www.macau.gov.mo/consulates/asia_en.phtml

Travel.com: Foreign Consulates in Hong Kong
http://www.travel.com.hk/consulat/con_hkm.htm

Search terms used:
macao consulates
://www.google.de/search?hl=de&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1&q=macao+consulates&meta=
"hong kong" consulates
://www.google.de/search?q=%22hong+kong%22+consulates&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=de&meta=
"Serviço de Migração" endereço
://www.google.de/search?hl=de&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1&q=%22Servi%C3%A7o+de+Migra%C3%A7%C3%A3o%22+endere%C3%A7o&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=

Hope this helps your friend soon!
Best regards,
Scriptor
spurious-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $20.00
That was an excellent answer: Scriptor-ga not only answered my
question but, anticipating my needs, went on to provide additional
information that was invaluable to resolving the problem.

Comments  
Subject: Re: How to get Mongolian consular services in Macau?
From: politicalguru-ga on 23 Dec 2002 05:48 PST
 
If your friend, like most Mongols, could speak Russian, I'm pretty
certain some Macau officials could communicate with him.

These are the contact details for the consulate in China, they could
probably help him in Mongol:

1. Huh hot- Consul General  Mr. S.Chuluunbaatar
Zhongguo Huhe Haote, Xincheng gu Wulanziagu 5 hao, Lou Menggu
Lingshiguang
Tel:   0086-471-4303254 
Fax:   0086-471-4303250 
E-mail: monconhh@public.hh.nm.cn 
2. Erlian - Consul General Mr. Ch.Dawadash 
Erlian fandian 308, Hao fangjian, Ereen Haote, China 
Tel:  0086-479-7521538, ext:2307 
Fax:  0086-479-7522194 
 

The same info in Mongolian (to print to your friend - you need
Cyrillic charcters):
Ávãä Íàéðàìäàõ Õÿòàä Àðä Óëñ
 
1. Õºõ õîò äàõü Åðºíõèé êîíñóë Ñ.×óëóóíáààòàð

Zhongguo Huhe Haote, Xincheng gu Wulanziagu 5 hao, Lou Menggu
Lingshiguang
Tel: 
 0086-471-4303254 
Fax: 
 0086-471-4303250 
E-mail: monconhh@public.hh.nm.cn 
2. Ýðýýí äýõ Åðºíõèé êîíñóë ×.Äàâààäàø 
Erlian fandian 308, Hao fangjian, Ereen Haote, China 
   
Tel: 
 0086-479-7521538, ext:2307 
Fax: 
 0086-479-7522194
Subject: Re: How to get Mongolian consular services in Macau?
From: spurious-ga on 23 Dec 2002 19:17 PST
 
Dear scriptor-ga and politicalguru-ga,

Thank you so much for your help, I was (am) struggling so hard to get
this resolved. Travelers beware; unlike any other country I have ever
been to, Macau is like a lobster pot - easy to get into but impossible
to get out. Combine this with my lack of language abilities; I can't
even pronounce _phoneticized_ Mongolian.

scriptor-ga’s Answer was 99% perfect – precise instructions with even
a prepared script in English and Portuguese; truly excellent. And
thanks too, politicalguru-ga. You are, as always, very helpful. I
sincerely hope I can explain (in some private forum) just how
important scriptor-ga’s Answer has been to my friend (more than a
travel inconvenience) and my hopes of its benefits to others as well.
I can understand GA management may need to prevent
Questioner-Researcher contact, but perhaps they would consent to
passing a private message. In any case, a survey of my Question
history tells its own story.

Although scriptor-ga was so kind as to post an Answer by the 21st, I
am hesitating to Rate and close out for two reasons:

(1) I'm having trouble with my credit and GA accounts has listed my
last payment as declined. Somehow, I can't change Visa number in my
Profile - a software bug bounces me to the main screen and repeated
requests to the support email address have not been replied to
("72-hours, etc."). I want to tip well, but don't want to trigger
another declined payment.

(2) I want to get my friend out of Macau first. I am trying to get
scriptor-ga's advice translated into Russian. My friend really
struggles with large passages of English and I want every word to be
understood. Translation engines just don’t cut it for something as
important as this. I need to get the Visa sorted (needs 4 working
days) before I can pay for professional translation. Meanwhile, my
friend languishes in Macau.
Subject: Re: How to get Mongolian consular services in Macau?
From: spurious-ga on 08 Jan 2003 23:27 PST
 
I got a rather chirpy email from Billing today. They've resolved the
technical trouble and I'm happy to say my account is back in business!
Apologies for the long delay in payment. Here's a $20 tip for your
trouble.

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