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Subject: internet domain names, web site ownership
Category: Computers > Internet
Asked by: speck-ga
List Price: $30.00
Posted: 05 May 2002 15:51 PDT
Expires: 12 May 2002 15:51 PDT
Question ID: 13263
How can I get a list of domain names & web sites that a particular
person ownes or has registered?

Request for Question Clarification by ephraim-ga on 05 May 2002 16:39 PDT
The short answer is that this would require a lot of
work on your part in order to track down this type
of information, which may or may not be available
depending on how the person registered the domain.

I'm willing to provide an answer with more detail, but
I first want to be sure you won't be disappointed with
an answer that has no guarantee it will always work.
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Subject: Re: internet domain names, web site ownership
Answered By: blader-ga on 05 May 2002 17:16 PDT
Rated:1 out of 5 stars
 
Dear speck:

You asked for a way to get a list of domain names that a particular
person owns or has registered.

There is a commercial, subscription based service that does expressly
this at LexisNexis, called MarkMonitor. Inside, there is a tool called
"ReverseWhois" that does exactly what you're looking for. This tool is
available on a subscription or per-search basis. The product homepage
is linked below:
http://www.lexisnexis.com/gsa/markmonitor.shtml

If you don't feel like paying, you can use the standard whois tools to
accomplish the same thing. From the Verisign WhoIs FAQ:

"Each database record has a single field (its "handle"), which
uniquely identifies it. The handle is always shown in parenthesis
following the record's name, which is always first thing shown as is
shown below.

PUBLIC, JOHN Q (JQP13)
The "JQP13" is the handle

To gather information on a particular handle, you can look it up by
its handle with a handle-only search by using a leading "!" or by
using the handle keyword. To use this handle keyword, just click the
handle radio button below the provided search box."
http://www.netsol.com/en_US/faq/whois/whois-learnmore.jhtml#whois2

So, to do what you want, all you need to do is know one domain the
person owns, and copy down the NIC handle of that person. Then, do
another whois search, prefixing "!" before the handle. That should
give you what you want. You could also just click on the handle name
next to the person's name to do the same thing.

The Verisign WhoIs page is here:
http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois

That is a bit sluggish at the moment, so you would be better off
trying to Global Whois server, which works the exact same way:
http://www.ratite.com/whois/whois.html

I did an example search for the Yahoo registrant handle (YAHOO-DOM),
and linked it below:
http://www.ratite.com/whois/whois.cgi?domain=!YAHOO-DOM

If the person doesn't have a handle, or uses a different handle for
every domain name, then you're out of luck, and probably would need to
use the LexisNexis for pay ReverseLookup service.

I hope this helps. If you need any clarifications, please don't
hesitate to ask. I would be more than happy to assist you further.

Best Regards,
blader-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by speck-ga on 05 May 2002 21:37 PDT
I went to all the web sites.  The free ones did not show any handles. 
The lexisnexis one was very difficult to find how to order. That
product was on the page you gave me, but I could not find it in any
price list.  I thought there web site was very confusing.  Please
advise

Clarification of Answer by blader-ga on 06 May 2002 01:27 PDT
Dear speck:

Sorry about the confusing LexisNexis homepage. That is one very badly
designed website. =) I found the real homepage for MarkMonitor. It's
at:
http://www.markmonitor.com

If you're interested in purchasing the service, you will have to email
the Sales Representatives at:
custserv@markmonitor.com

To answer your question about your trouble with the free services,
most, but not all, domain registration companies require their
customers to register a NIC Handle. If you couldn't find an NIC Handle
on file for your search, it is most likely that he used a service that
does not require one. If possible, I could do the search for you given
the domain name you are searching with, and see what I come up with.
If he really doesn't have an NIC Handle on file, then your best bet
would probably to check with the MarkMonitor service.

I hope this helps. If you need any more clarifications, I'll be happy
to help.

Best Regards,
blader-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by speck-ga on 06 May 2002 03:00 PDT
the domain names that I know are homebizsupport.com and
homemademoney.org
I only suspect one more is out there.  If you can find a handle, I
would appreciate that very much. Thanks!

Clarification of Answer by blader-ga on 06 May 2002 14:58 PDT
Dear speck:

I did a search on a half dozen whois services and none of them offer
the reverse whois support that MarkMonitor offers. Considering that
they charge $1500 for a subscription, I can't say I'm very surprised,
though. It seems that Jim Ferguson did use a different registrar
service for both of the sites, and put in different information for
the registrant. Other than the MarkMonitor service, I wasn't able to
find any other service that fulfills your needs. Sorry.

Best Regards,
blader-ga
speck-ga rated this answer:1 out of 5 stars
I could not get the information I wanted from any of the suggested resources.

Comments  
Subject: Re: internet domain names, web site ownership
From: ephraim-ga on 05 May 2002 17:37 PDT
 
blader-ga,

While querying for a specific handle gave the name and
contact info for the handle, it did *not* give a list
of domains owned by that handle. I tried this while
researching the question, and could not make it work.

Did you actually manage to do this? Can you print out a
list of domains owned by YAHOO-DOM?

/ephraim
Subject: Re: internet domain names, web site ownership
From: webadept-ga on 05 May 2002 22:49 PDT
 
Hi there, thought I would chime in and give my two bits of un-paid
advice. I was happy to see that you decided against the NexisLexis
option given. They would face the same problems any of the rest of us
would with gathering such a list. I own several domains, registered by
serveral different services, and I can tell you now, there would be no
"easy/service" method of compiling the list of my websites.

To register a website you give out an email and sometimes use an
Account ID, depending on the register service you use. The email is
always required, registration asks for 3 seperate addresses, normally
for the owner, the webmaster/tech guy and the accounting department.
Street addresses and phone numbers are also asked for.

Asked for, is much different than "verified". There are several good
reasons not to put the same information on all the websites a person
owns, and serveral to keep the email addresses different as well. Some
websites I have are business related, and are therefore registered
with the business information, others are personal, and registered
with even less information. I'm not trying to hide my registrations
from others, in fact the thought never occured to me that I might want
to, but with my simple little set of URL's I see a tremedous problem
in someone else trying to find all of them and tie them all to me. It
would take a lot of work.

I can't think of a comprehesive method of gathering the information
you have requested. Not accuratly, or completely, and I've given this
much thought since you posted it. If I'm using different information
for each website, how is it possible to trace all the URL's back to
me? The ID method spoken of above with the !YAHOO-DOM would be good,
but is only accurate with websites registered by that one service,
registering through register.com, for instance, doesn't use this ID or
record it in the WHOIS datafile.

So, there is the problem in a nut shell. With a web script written in
Perl I could see tracking them all down on a case by case basis, with
alterations for each inbetween. The script would probably run for
quite some time, and even then, now that I've got some code written
for it, I see that this might not produce a complete list either.

Now, if someone was purposely trying to hide the fact that he/she
owned a particular URL, well, that would be a pretty easy thing, and
very hard/nearly impossible for mere mortals to discover.

So, that's my little comment. I hope it helps in some small way. 

webadept-ga
Subject: Re: internet domain names, web site ownership
From: blader-ga on 06 May 2002 01:10 PDT
 
ephraim:

I probably need to do some more research, but if you click on the
Global Whois server example link for "YAHOO-DOM" you'll see the domain
name registered to it. I haven't seen any handle with more than one
registered domain though. I'll need to find one to see if it shows all
the domain names for multiple domain registrants.

Best Regards,
blader-ga
Subject: Re: internet domain names, web site ownership
From: speck-ga on 06 May 2002 14:30 PDT
 
Markmmonitor only sells subscriptions.  It would cost me $1500 to do
the reverse who is!
Subject: Re: internet domain names, web site ownership
From: speck-ga on 06 May 2002 15:50 PDT
 
I dont know if I can ask another question since I did not get an
answer that helped.  How can I retrieve temporary internet files that
have been deleted and thrown out of the recycle bin?
Subject: Re: internet domain names, web site ownership
From: missy-ga on 07 May 2002 09:37 PDT
 
I don't know that asking a different question in the comments section
will help, speck!  You can always ask for a refund, though.

Try here for your file problem:

http://zdnet.search.com/search?channel=56&cat=279tag=st.zd.sr.srch.zdnet&q=%22recover+deleted+files%22

Good luck!
Subject: Re: internet domain names, web site ownership
From: homeed-ga on 07 May 2002 13:25 PDT
 
I took a different approach and did a simple search on some of the
terms in those two identical websites.

In addition to the two sites you listed (homebizsupport.com and
homemademoney.org), these sites appear have the same copyright
information:


http://www.itilink.com/itiindex.asp?username=berlian
http://www.itilink.com/corp/prod_ITI_pager_systems.html

Here's the site for the home company:

http://www.ititelecom.com/
Subject: Re: internet domain names, web site ownership
From: speck-ga on 10 May 2002 20:30 PDT
 
I am trying to request a refund for this question and I can't get the
"second window" to pop up.  There is no place to click on request
refund.  Please advise. Thank you

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