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Subject:
Laptop computer freezes
Category: Computers > Operating Systems Asked by: dpwiener-ga List Price: $5.00 |
Posted:
23 Dec 2002 12:14 PST
Expires: 22 Jan 2003 12:14 PST Question ID: 132817 |
Our laptop computer will TOTALLY freeze up at unpredictable times, and must be restarted by turning the power off and on. This happens typically once or twice a day, but can sometimes be as frequently as every 5 minutes. The computer is an AMS Roadster 151CT with 64 Mbytes of RAM, purchased in March, 1999. The operating system is Windows 98 SE. Main programs used are Outlook Express 6.0, Excel 97 SR-1, and Windows Explorer 6.0. Norton SystemWorks 2002 version 5.0 is installed, has virus updates, and scans the computer periodically. We had a similar problem back in 2000. After unsuccessful repair efforts and even a complete reformatting of the hard drive, it was suggested that there might be a mouse incompatibility. So we installed a new mouse driver and the problem sort of went away. However, we've only intermittently used the laptop since then, until we recently resumed heavy usage and again experienced this problem. So we installed a new Logitech optical mouse and software, which helped for maybe a week; then problem resumed. Reinstalling the Logitech software didn't help. What is the likely cause for these freezes, and what can we do to stop them? |
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Re: Laptop computer freezes
From: houstonguy-ga on 23 Dec 2002 12:35 PST |
I'm not a reasearcher, but, this is what I would do if it were my problem: 1) I'd make notes of exactly what I was doing when the computer freezes(what was running, whether it be in the background or whatever. 2) I'd see if I could re-create the situation, going from the notes indicated in item #1 3) If I could re-create the problem, I would then start to shut down the running processes one at a time to see if the problem keeps happening or goes a way, of course I would note, what was running and what wasn't(what program I 'killed') "process of elimination" NOTE: I have heard that people have problems with the power saving stuff, so you might even want to turn that part off(in control panel) hope some of this info. might help..good luck |
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Re: Laptop computer freezes
From: feilong-ga on 23 Dec 2002 13:02 PST |
There are many things that can make a computer behave in this way. One factor could be that your drive has developed bad sectors and can't read over those sectors when accessing. It would be a good thing if after you formatted the drive and installed only the OS and Norton Systemworks, you use NDD to verify that the drive has no bad sectors or identify them if any. Once identified and fixed, you can then install whatever programs you need. Feilong (Google Answers researcher) |
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Re: Laptop computer freezes
From: omnivorous-ga on 23 Dec 2002 14:33 PST |
Dpwiener -- Feilong-GA has made some logical suggestions for the cause. Myself, I'd vote for a loose connection somewhere in the power or system bus. I'd try disassembling the system, if you're handy with a a screwdriver, and re-seating all connectors and components: hard drive, socketed components, connectors. Your problem could be cause by a large number of things, including defective memory components; stiction in the hard drive; loose connections; power supply failures; and even software. Best regards, Omnivorous Google Answers researcher |
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Re: Laptop computer freezes
From: dpwiener-ga on 23 Dec 2002 22:29 PST |
Thank you all for your suggestions. Houstonguy, I'll try noting what processes are normally running. But of course I can't be sure what's running at the precise moment the computer freezes, since there's no way to recover except by cycling the power. Regarding power management, the computer is set to "always on" (except for the hard drive, which had been set to turn off after 5 hours; I've now changed that to "never turn off" as well). Feilong, I just ran Norton Disk Doctor and everything came up okay. Now I'm running a disk optimization, so we'll see if that helps. Obviously the last thing I want to resort to is reformatting my hard drive. Omnivorous, I'm very reluctant to open up the laptop and fiddle with components (even though I'm an electronic engineer). The risk of damaging something is probably higher than the hope of fixing something, unless I'm first able to isolate (or at least narrow down) the failure location. My own guesses as to the source of the problem would be (1) an unusual hardware-software conflict, or (2) software incompatibility between two programs. I'm hoping that someone might have experience with or knowledge of similar problems on other computers, and can suggest what software could be responsible or how to go about identifying the exact cause. Again, I sincerely appreciate your comments. |
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Re: Laptop computer freezes
From: iamamey-ga on 03 Jan 2003 08:09 PST |
Dear dpwiener-ga, (I'm afraid I don't know your real name), I have read your question and the accompanying comments. I believe that either your hard disk or the memory chips are faulty. As your laptop is pretty old (1999), it is quite likely that your hard disk is the culprit. Does scandisk report bad sectors and does the number of bad sectors go on increasing day by day? If so, you must replace your hard disk. If you are sure that hard disk is fine, the memory chip may be faulty. To find out if this is the case, you can use various softwares that test your RAM chips. Alternatively, you can limit your RAM and see if the problem is solved. Start --> Run --> msconfig --> Advanced In the "limit memory to" box type 32. This way, windows will only use 32MB of your 64 MB RAM chip. If the problem is solved, your memory chip was faulty. Try the smallest allowed number first. Caution: Be sure to enter a proper number in the memory box. I think, 16 is the minimum. If you enter a number less than 16, windows won't start and you will have to restore the registry using a startup floppy. Avoid that. To find out which number is valid, click on the "?" button at the top of the "Advanced" window, (your mouse cursor will turn into a question mark) and then click on the words "Limit memory to" Best of Luck!!!!!! |
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