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Subject: Country-specific Google search
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: jane99-ga
List Price: $20.00
Posted: 25 Dec 2002 23:27 PST
Expires: 24 Jan 2003 23:27 PST
Question ID: 133421
How could my web www.london-uk-hotels.com get listed on both google
local specific coutry search? For instance, when I seach
www.london-uk-hotels.com in www.google.co.uk in catagory " the web " ,
I found my website and have the same listing as www.google.com. But
when I search the same web in www.google.co.uk in catagory " pages
from UK ", I found none of my site. It is happen the same situation
when I search in www.google.fr.

How could I have my site in each google specific country list?

Thank you and Have a Happy Holidays

Jane

Request for Question Clarification by tar_heel_v-ga on 26 Dec 2002 11:58 PST
"www.london-uk-hotels.com" does show up under "pages from the UK" when
searched on google.co.uk.

Request for Question Clarification by aceresearcher-ga on 26 Dec 2002 13:08 PST
Greetings, Jane!

Your site does show up if you enter www.london-uk-hotels.com in the
Search box on the following Searches:

www.google.co.uk  Web
www.google.co.uk  Pages from the UK
www.google.fr     Web
www.google.fr     Pages Francophones (Pages from France)
www.google.fr     Pages: France

However, most people searching for London hotel accommodations on the
web will not be entering your website name into the Search box. They
will be entering things like "London hotel discounts" and "London
hotels" in the Search box, and right now your site does not rank very
high in the results for Searches on those text strings.

I would be able to offer you a number of suggestions on how you can
modify your website to make it more friendly to Search Engines and
therefore, possibly rank much higher in the Search results for similar
Search strings, if you are interested. If you are willing to accept
this information as an Answer, please post a Clarification on this
Question stating that, and I will be glad to help you improve your
Search standings in as many ways as possible.

Regards,

aceresearcher

Clarification of Question by jane99-ga on 28 Dec 2002 00:41 PST
Yes, I would like to have my sites get better rank in other local
google sites.
------
www.google.co.uk  Pages from the UK 
www.google.fr     Pages Francophones (Pages from France) 
www.google.fr     Pages: France 
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I also wonder why I found non of my site when I use "
site:www.london-uk-hotels.com  hotels " in "www.google.co.uk : Pages
from the UK " but 100 pages in  "www.google.co.uk : web "

Many Thanks and Have a Happy Holidays.

Jane
Answer  
Subject: Re: Country-specific Google search
Answered By: robertskelton-ga on 28 Dec 2002 19:03 PST
 
Hi again Jane,

Here are some explanations of how Google determines regional results,
how to tell if you appear in a regional search, and what you need to
do to be listed in UK and French regional search results.


How Regional Googles Work
-------------------------

Every Google search site uses the same database, and the same method
of ranking the results. When restricting results to a specific
country, the consensus of opinion amongst webmasters is that Google
looks at:

1. Where the site is hosted (this can be done quite accurately by
looking at the site's IP address)

2. Whether it uses the country's domain extension, such as ".fr". 

Others have suggested that:

3. Being listed in the appropriate regional category at Open Directory
might help, or

4. Having an appropriate physical address mentioned somewhere on your
site.

I have a USA hosted .com site that fits the last two criteria for
Australia, but does not show up in the regional Australia results, so
I doubt that 3 & 4 have any affect.

"We store all the data in one master index. Then we build a restrict
of French language pages and pages in France. Note that we don't just
consider .fr pages. Instead, we also look for .com pages which are
based in France. That's one reason why our search on google.fr can
cover more pages."
[ from an interview with Matt Cutts, software engineer, and Stephanie
Kerebel, internationalization specialist with Google ]
http://chat.abondance.com/google.html

"From all accounts, web sites are included in google's regional
sub-indices (e.g. "search pages from the UK") based solely on domain
name and IP address (ie, on where they are hosted)."
http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum3/5164.htm?highlight=google+regional


Google Searching for a Domain Name
----------------------------------

When testing to see if your site appears in a regional search, keep
these points in mind...

1. A search for mysite.com or www.mysite.com brings up a result like
this, regardless of whether the search is using the entire Google
index or a country subset:

Internet Auction Secrets
"How I Made $38,450.27 PROFIT On eBay - And That Was Only ONE Of My
Auctions!", During the past 5 years, I've been quietly testing ... 

Google can show you the following information for this URL:

Show Google's cache of mysite.com 
Find web pages that are similar to mysite.com 
Find web pages that link to mysite.com 
Find web pages that contain the term "mysite.com"


2. If you place the same query within quotes, the results are normal.
This is the best way to see if you appear in a regional search.

"www.london-uk-hotels.com"

UK Regional Search - not listed
://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22www.london-uk-hotels.com%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&meta=cr%3DcountryUK%7CcountryGB

France Regional Search - not listed
://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22www.london-uk-hotels.com%22&btnG=Recherche+Google&meta=cr%3DcountryFR


What you need to do
-------------------

1. Have your site hosted in either the UK or France. According to a
piece of software called Sam Spade, your site's IP address is
66.39.87.40, which means it is hosted in the USA.

2. Use a domain name that ends in either .uk or .fr

As far as I can tell, the only way your site could show up in the
regional search results for both the UK and France, would be to change
your domain name to london-uk-hotels.co.uk and host it in France, or
change it to london-uk-hotels.fr and host it in the UK.


Search strategy: Personal knowledge and browsing WebMasterWorld.


I hope this answers your question. As usual, if any portion of my
answer is unclear, please ask for clarification.


Best wishes and happy New Year,
robertskelton-ga
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