I have a yahoo business account (Account A) I use to send email, but
want all incoming email to come to a different account (Account B)
(which, unfortunately, can only receive, not send - take my word for
this). I have set up the "reply" address in yahoo to be Account B,
but when someone forwards or replies, the yahoo address shows on the
log below their message and people get confused.
How can I use Account A to send email, but be completely transparent
to a recipient, who only sees reference to Account B?
Some notes:
* I have seen references to a "masquerade domain" ,although not in
yahoo, and wonder if this may be a solution.
* This has absolutely nothing to do with spam or hiding my identity.
It has everything to do with routing of email and people not wondering
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Request for Question Clarification by
spot_tippybuttons-ga
on
30 Dec 2002 23:35 PST
Do you have special needs that require you to use Yahoo, or does the
possibility exist for you to install a traditional mail client on your
desktop? If you are not opposed to a traditional client, do you know
if you are behind a firewall; and if so, are you able to send outbound
mail through the firewall (barring the fact that your account does not
allow you to do so), or is it limited to web access only?
If you do not know the answer to the second question, you can find out
with the following quick test. (I'm presuming you're using Windows,
but this test will also work in many other operating systems.) From a
command prompt, type:
telnet mx1.mail.yahoo.com 25
If telnet opens and you see the words "220 YSmtp mta406.mail.yahoo.com
ESMTP service ready" or something similar, then you have the ability
to connect to an outbound mail server from your computer. If telnet
does not connect, then in all likelihood your port access is blocked
behind a firewall.
Thanks!
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Clarification of Question by
nick37-ga
on
31 Dec 2002 05:56 PST
spot, you're thought is right on. It doesn't have to be yahoo. Yahoo
is what I'm using as my current workaround. I thought the ideal would
be to use the SMTP server from Windows 2000 Professional (see my
related question for that saga - what a mess trying to set that up!).
I was hoping that someone for $10 could show me how to turn on a
masquerade domain option with yahoo. A pretty sharp guy has been
trying for two weeks (and $100) to set up what you're suggesting,
without success.
BTW, from the command prompt I get a very similar message to yours.
From that standpoint it should be ready to go.
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Request for Question Clarification by
spot_tippybuttons-ga
on
31 Dec 2002 07:57 PST
I do not believe you are going to be able to masquerade as such with
Yahoo, because, in the end, Yahoo is the one sending the e-mails and
writing the mail headers. As long as Yahoo is re-writing the header,
I'm not sure you're going to able to fully hide it.
I read your other question, and I can see you've been quite an ordeal
already. I don't want to make you jump through any more hoops, but I'm
pretty sure a local SMTP server can still work for you. If you're
willing to try, I am willing to help you diagnose this problem a
little further.
The first thing I would do, as long as you are not using it, is
disable bind. You don't need to uninstall it, just kill the process
for a few minutes to do some testing. I understand that there seemed
to be transient DNS errors, but I am not quite convinced that your DNS
was the actual cause, nor that a local copy of bind is the solution.
Your Windows 2000 installation should have come with a utility called
nslookup. This tool can be used to determine what information is
really being returned by your DNS server. By default, nslookup under
Windows points at whatever DNS server is the default in your TCP/IP
configuration settings.
To use nslookup to test your DNS lookups, do the following:
1) From the command prompt, type nslookup and press enter. nslookup
should return the name of your default DNS server, followed by a >
prompt.
2) At the > prompt, enter the command (case sensitive):
set querytype=MX
3) Now, at the > prompt, type the domain name that you want to send
mail to. For purposes of example, I typed google.com and hit enter.
If your DNS is working correctly, you should get a response similar to
the following:
Non-authoritative answer:
google.com MX preference = 40, mail exchanger = smtp3.google.com
google.com MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = smtp1.google.com
google.com MX preference = 20, mail exchanger = smtp2.google.com
google.com nameserver = ns1.google.com
google.com nameserver = ns2.google.com
google.com nameserver = ns3.google.com
google.com nameserver = ns4.google.com
smtp3.google.com internet address = 216.239.33.26
smtp1.google.com internet address = 216.239.33.25
smtp2.google.com internet address = 216.239.37.25
ns1.google.com internet address = 216.239.32.10
ns2.google.com internet address = 216.239.34.10
ns3.google.com internet address = 216.239.36.10
ns4.google.com internet address = 216.239.38.10
Try the domains that were giving you problems sending mail, and see if
they give a similar response. Naturally, the names of the mail servers
and the IP addresses will be different, but the format of the records
should be more or less the same. If this works, then the problem is
unlikely your DNS... if it doesn't work, well, then I guess maybe it
is. :-)
If we can't get local mail running for you, then the other possibility
to consider is a third-party relay service who will deliver your
outbound mail for you. This is different than Yahoo as they will
ordinarily appear as just another hop in the delivery chain, versus
being the actual sender.
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Clarification of Question by
nick37-ga
on
02 Jan 2003 08:12 PST
spot, thanks for the willingness to dig deeper. Given my ignorance in
these areas, I've gone with mister's user friendly suggestion to
replace yahoo with fastmail.
This may be the 95% solution. I've created a fastmail
account (for about $10-$20/yr) that allows me pop/smtp access and
masks the "from" domain. So far it has worked well. I receive on the
work account, send on the fastmail account. Anyone receiving sees
only the work account - so no confusion is created.
Mister, thanks for the suggestion. Please post as the "Answer".
Wish you both the best in the New Year,
-Nick27-ga
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