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NOT SLICED BREAD
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference Asked by: mynn-ga List Price: $3.62 |
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31 Dec 2002 10:21 PST
Expires: 30 Jan 2003 10:21 PST Question ID: 135562 |
I've heard a bajillion people over the years call things "The greatest thing since sliced bread" etc. They're all wrong. My dad said so (smart guy). However, I've not been able to find ANY place where the actual phrase "life's bread" is used ... the one that was eventually corrupted into "sliced bread" which is really pretty stupid if you think about it. I mean really, what is so special about sliced bread? Nothing. So the question is ... has anyone else seen this (correct) quote about the "greatest thing outside of life's bread" or "greatest thing since life's bread" etc? "Life's bread" also makes more sense when you think about it from the bibical perspective of the Christian God giving His people manna from heaven ... |
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Re: NOT SLICED BREAD
Answered By: markj-ga on 31 Dec 2002 11:43 PST Rated: |
mynn -- Strange as it may seem in an era when sliced bread is taken completely for granted, there is good authority for the proposition that the phrase "greatest thing since sliced bread" does indeed mean just what it appears to mean. A great source for information about the derivation of words and phrases is "The Word Detective," which began as a syndicated newspaper column in 1995 and has evolved into a useful and entertaining on-line resource. As "The Word Detective" (Evan Morris) explains, the mass production of sliced bread began fairly recently -- in the mid-20th century -- and it was a fairly important innovation (where would we be today without toasters?). Here is a link to Mr. Morris's witty discussion of that subject: The Word Detective http://www.word-detective.com/back-h.html In the last paragraph of that discussion, Morris refers to a well-known etymologist, Christine Ammer, who opines that "the greatest thing since sliced bread' probably originated in the American armed forces in the middle of the 20th century." (Fruitcakes and Couch Potatoes, and Other Delicious Expressions, by Christine Ammer, Plume/Penguin, (New York, 1995)) One reason for the continuing popularity of the phrase today may be that the "invention" of sliced bread seems like such a simple thing in retrospect. Thus, we find ourselves saying it humorously or sarcastically about products that are ingenious but not necessarily of earth-shaking importance -- like a hula hoop. Here is a link to a discussion on the subject: The Phrase Finder http://phrases.shu.ac.uk/bulletin_board/1/messages/2368.html Finally, your suggestion that the phrase might have evolved from the phrase "life's bread" does not appear to find any support on the Internet. I have found only one on-line instance of "the greatest thing since life's bread." It is in the stenographic transcript of a meeting of the Faculty Senate of Cleveland State University and is almost certainly the result of a transcription error by the stenographer. Here is a link to the page: Faculty Senate: Minutes of the May 2, 2001 Meeting (near the bottom of the page) http://www.csuohio.edu/faculty_senate/min20010502.htm Additional Links: The Word Detective (home page) http://www.word-detective.com/ Alibris (where a copy of the out-of-print Ammer book may be purchased) http://www.alibris.com/search/search.cfm?qwork=2483743&ptit=Fruitcakes%20and%20Couch%20Potatoes%2C%20and%20Other%20Delicious%20Expressions%3A%20And%20Other%20Delicious%20Expressions&pauth=Ammer%2C%20Christine&pisbn=0452273684&pbest=3%2E95&pbestnew=1000000%2E00&pqty=1&pqtynew=0&matches=1&qsort=r Google Search Terms Used: "since sliced bread" originated ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22since+sliced+bread%22+originated If any of the above information is unclear or if any of the links don't work, please let me know. markj-ga |
mynn-ga
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Eh ... while it is thorough, I still maintain that "sliced bread" is no big deal. People were slicing bread before commercial bread processing (I should say high volume retail bread processing) and before we had sandiwches there wasn't much need for sliced bread anyway. But my dad, scholar of many things and loser of many original reference sources, insisted this to us very early on ... ah well, I'll keep looking. Thanks. (any one else has thoughts or answers, please contribute!) |
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Re: NOT SLICED BREAD
From: severisth-ga on 31 Dec 2002 12:53 PST |
This topic has caught my curiosity... Just for the sake of discussion, there were no other mistakes in that stenographic transcript aside from one instance of "a important" which should have been "an important". What are the odds of confusing "life's" with "sliced" in such a popular statement? It appears there are a few other people using the phrase "life's" bread also: http://saginaw.citysearch.com/saved/userprofile/LilDebOne "In my opinion, Bruster's Chocolate Raspberry Truffle is the best thing since life's bread." http://www.buffysearch.com/news/talk/986231393,70586,.shtml "buffy the best thing since lifes bread" Most interesting... |
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Re: NOT SLICED BREAD
From: mwalcoff-ga on 31 Dec 2002 17:18 PST |
If I am not mistaken, pre-sliced bread came out a year after the introduction of the home toaster. That would explain the great popularity of sliced bread at the time of its introduction. It also answers the question of what was the greatest thing *before* sliced bread -- the toaster! |
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Re: NOT SLICED BREAD
From: catheriner-ga on 31 Jul 2003 13:34 PDT |
I love sliced bread! ;) |
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Re: NOT SLICED BREAD
From: snapanswer-ga on 08 Aug 2003 21:45 PDT |
I wonder if this isn't a phrase that has evolved in meaning. When I encounter this phrase today, I gather that it is being used facetiously. For example, when discussing some new, over-hyped gadget, someone might say it is the greatest thing since sliced bread--as if to say that sliced bread was overhyped, as well. Be that as it may, sliced bread may have been a tremendous time saver for people who were either tired of smushing their bread during slicing or people who invested time in baking their own bread prior to the availability of the pre-sliced variety. For what it is worth, I think the push-button trumps sliced bread and toasters. The "push button" has so many uses... I'm using "push buttons" to compose this message now. Many gadgets would be much harder to use without "push buttons". Google Answers... the greatest thing since push buttons. -G Jetson |
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