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Subject: Trude Heller's, want '67-71 video.
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Performing Arts
Asked by: bluestreak-ga
List Price: $100.00
Posted: 31 Dec 2002 16:43 PST
Expires: 30 Jan 2003 16:43 PST
Question ID: 135770
From 1967-72, Trude Heller's was one of the leading New York City 
discos. She actually was open from '61-79,but I'm only interested in 
the '67-72 period. Her dancers were known as the Trude Heller Dancers 
and were beyond belief. Many patrons would go in with shoulder-held 
video cameras and video-tape them.  Does anyone know anyone with such 
a home-made video or steer me to anyone with one? The dancers I seek 
are: Karl Bernabe,Karl Merril,Carol "Lou" Fasano,and Bill Burgess. I 
can pay $100. if anyone can lead me to obtain such a video. And $500. 
to the seller of such a video with any of the above-mentioned dancers.
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Subject: Re: Trude Heller's, want '67-71 video.
From: ragingacademic-ga on 01 Jan 2003 20:30 PST
 
bluestreak -

Video cameras were not commercial during the period you mention - they
began coming on the scene in the late 70s.  You are probably
remembering 8mm film cameras (or maybe even 16mm).  I'm sure some of
these old films were transferred to video in later years.  8mm film
camera cartridges were only good for several minutes at a time and
they were extremely expensive, so I would not expect to find more than
12-20 minutes of such film from any one visit (although who knows,
someone may have invested 100s of 1970 dollars in capturing the
dancers you speak of).

Good luck!
ragingacademic
Subject: Re: Trude Heller's, want '67-71 video.
From: bluestreak-ga on 01 Jan 2003 21:18 PST
 
Good evening ragingacademic,                                          
         It is my pleasure to meet you.  This is the most expensive
question I've posted. Because I am one of those dancers.  I would do
almost ANYTHING to find and acquire ANY kind of footage.  I do not
know where to begin to advertise in any kind of cost/effective way. I
do monitor Ebay.  Any remote long-shot  suggestions?  bluestreak
Subject: Re: Trude Heller's, want '67-71 video.
From: ragingacademic-ga on 01 Jan 2003 22:01 PST
 
bluestreak -

A pleasure to meet you as well.
I had answered one of your questions several weeks ago.

I would think that $100 is sufficient to keep several researchers here
on this case.  In addition, I would recommend that you look for
newsgroups that entertain discussions of dancing and dancers; you can
find some, for example, at -

groups.yahoo.com

as well as at -

groups.google.com

There are many other groups sites on the Net.
Subscribe to groups that seem active and post your request there.
Also, I would seek out "experts" in the groups' archives and contact
them to see if they know anything.

I'll keep thinking about this, in the mean time!

best of luck,
and thanks for being such a loyal Answers supporter!

ragingacademic
Subject: Re: Trude Heller's, want '67-71 video.
From: luciaphile-ga on 18 Jan 2003 09:06 PST
 
Hi Bluestreak :)

No luck finding your video, but you might want to check this
out--someone else is looking for information regarding the Trude
Heller Dancers.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22trude+heller+dancers%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3975e051.0211241435.ef854c9%40posting.google.com&rnum=1

Regards,
luciaphile
Subject: Re: Trude Heller's, want '67-71 video.
From: bluestreak-ga on 18 Jan 2003 10:52 PST
 
Hi luciaphile,                                                        
         ALWAYS good to hear from you!  That post must have been from
ragingacademic.  She had suggested I post a query for a news group. 
Or it could possibly be another researcher trying to help me.  The
dates from 67-72 tells me it's one of our researchers.  I'll bet it's
ragingacademic.  If she finds a video meeting my criteria, she'll have
well earned her $100.  I'd consider that the bargain of the century. 
I was one of those dancers.  Thanks for staying with me, luciaphile! 
bluestreak
Subject: Re: Trude Heller's, want '67-71 video.
From: podsnap-ga on 14 Aug 2004 18:38 PDT
 
I remember Trude Heller's well. The Manhattan Transfer and Blossom
Dearie were regular acts in the 70s.

Replying to ragingacademic's comment: Video cameras certainly were
commercial at this time--broadcast TV was videotaping by the late 50s,
and videocams were available to the general public by the late 60s.
The Sony PortaPak (first portable video kit I know of) was out in the
early 70s. After VCRs became widespread in the 80s there was a
built-in market for camcorders and consumer videoing became a fad, but
videotape had been around for a quarter-century.

But the thrust of your comment is accurate: it's unlikely one would
use video in the low-light environment of Trude Heller's, especially
in those days. Film is what the dancers would have been shot on, and
undoubtedly some film exists...
Subject: Re: Trude Heller's, want '67-71 video.
From: bluestreak-ga on 14 Aug 2004 19:30 PDT
 
podsnap,

Thank you so much for taking the time to write me.  When I and Carol
Lou Fasano, worked together as go-go dancers at Trude Heller's in
1972, we used to see customers holding shoulder held video cameras,
and taping us.  We were rock dance super-freaks.  I would give almost
anything to discover any footage of us or other Trude Heller dancers. 
Carol and I are still in touch and doing fine.  I have a request in
Ebay if any item with Trude Heller's name in the description turns up.
 Who knows?  Someday.

Thanks for responding to my post!!  bluestreak
Subject: Re: Trude Heller's, want '67-71 video.
From: donna1123-ga on 20 Aug 2004 03:03 PDT
 
I am looking for a Trude Heller dancer, also a Clay Cole show dancer,
named Lulu or Doris Clark. Went to high school with her.
Subject: Re: Trude Heller's, want '67-71 video.
From: bluestreak-ga on 20 Aug 2004 08:43 PDT
 
Donna1123,

I can't be sure, but it sure sounds as if the one you're seeking might
have been my partner, Carol Fasano.  She was originally from Jersy
City, NJ, then moved to Brooklyn, NY when she was 16 yrs. old.  She
was born March 22, 1946.  She worked at Trude Heller's from '65-'72
off & on.  She also performed on the Clay Cole Show as a guest spot
dancer.  She went to Ferris HS, in Jersy City, NJ, and New Utrecht,
Brooklyn, NY.  She is now living upstate NY.  If she sounds as if
she's the one you seek, let me know, and we'll find a means of
contact.  bluestreak

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