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Subject: Gov't of the Regency of Algiers & under French rule - for Digs or historians
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference
Asked by: wolvies-ga
List Price: $35.00
Posted: 03 Jan 2003 06:03 PST
Expires: 08 Jan 2003 03:54 PST
Question ID: 136947
The Deys or Beys of Algiers - for Digsalot or other historians

This is a complicated question requiring a complicated answer, I will
simplify it as much as possible. I need to know aspects of both the
Regency of Algiers (pre-1830) and the French government of Algiers
(mainly between 1830-1870).

1. The Dey of Algiers was oficially the Viceroy of the Ottoman Sultan
but had by the nineteenth century become virtually independent. Was
the position now hereditary, and if so by what law of succession ? It
had originally been that he was elected in some way by the Turkish
garrison.

2. The Dey ruled over threee Beyliks, each of whom would have had a
Bey as governor. Was there any hereditary nature to the rule of these
Beyliks, or were they dependant for appointment on the Dey ?

3. I have seen lists of the Deys that go as far as the time that
Algiers became independent. I am assuming that some succession law was
in operation during French rule, so that the Dey became like a native
subject king. Did he continue to have any powers under French
occupation ? If so, what were these limited to ? Were beys still
appointed or had these been completely abolished in favour of French
governors sent by Paris or appointed by the French Military Governor.

4. More or less as a different way of saying 3 in order to cover all I
need to know, I don't need to know about French administration of
Algiers, but I do need to know what legacy institutions from Regency
times continued to be important, at least until 1870 when France made
major changes, and how much traditional ruling families still had a
say in things ?

5. For a bonus, the Tuggart Sultanate existed in the South until it
was abolished in 1854 by the French colonial authorities. Was this an
ethnic Tuareg state, and did the ex-sultans continue to have any role
in the land after the formal abolition of the sultanate. If so, is
there an online list of them anywhere beyond 1854

If you want a kind of mindframe to hold this in, consider that a
1870-equivalent French authority is removed and the victorious power
is looking to see what native institutions there have been, what still
remains with power, what still remains with more formality than power,
and what has been abolished but may possibly be re-established.

Thanks in advance !

Clarification of Question by wolvies-ga on 03 Jan 2003 06:49 PST
24 hours is fine as I certainly won't be working with the results on a
Friday night :) The only detailed reading I have done is around the
websites I have been able to find. The problem with published works is
that the number and nature of the areas I need to research mean that I
can only afford a few books at a time, and though I am sure there
would be fasincating reading around what I need, I have not the
time-money at present...Of course for $35 if I could find the book
easily maybe I could buy it but the answers to the question, distilled
and easy to understand, would be a couple of weeks away. Hope that all
makes sense ! But please feel free to name his book - should your
answer pique my interest I may end up ordering it.

Clarification of Question by wolvies-ga on 04 Jan 2003 15:48 PST
A QUICK CHECK - Is someone working on this for me ? Politicalguru or
someone else ? If not please say. I can probably do sufficient with a
couple of dedicated days but need to know I should set them aside.
Obviously I would prefer an answer here and am happy to wait till
early next week. Thanks

All the best
Wolvies, lol
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Subject: Re: Gov't of the Regency of Algiers & under French rule - for Digs or historians
From: politicalguru-ga on 03 Jan 2003 06:24 PST
 
I began to work on the question, and would try to answer it within the
next 24 hours. Have you tried reading Bernard Lewis on the subject? I
recommend it to any researcher trying to answer this question.
Subject: Re: Gov't of the Regency of Algiers & under French rule - for Digs or historians
From: digsalot-ga on 03 Jan 2003 22:42 PST
 
Hi Wolvies - good to see you back.  I'm sure, in fact I'm certain,
politicalguru can do a better job for you on this than I can.  It is a
period of history of which I am in total ignorance.  To paraphrase
something somebody else once said: "I have tried to know little or
nothing about as many subjects as possible and I have succeeded quite
well."

As for your last questions about Asian history, I asked and obtained
permission to include my own website as a resource which you could
use.  Of course, it blows anonymity right out the window and I
received that permission after I had already posted the answer to you
and you vanished for the holidays.  Anyway, if it can help in your
research, it is http://www.archaeolink.com
"Amazing Worlds of Archaeology, Anthropology and Ancient
Civilizations"

I now return you to the capable hands of politicalguru, one of our
best.

Cheers
digs
Subject: Re: Gov't of the Regency of Algiers & under French rule - for Digs or historians
From: wolvies-ga on 07 Jan 2003 02:55 PST
 
I'll kiss this question tomorrow if no-one's working on it; it would
be somewhat annoying to dedicate myself to finding the answer then
find someone else has done the work. At the same time I imagine it
would be very frustating to be a Google researcher looking into this
and then finding the question prematurely closed. So if anyone is
working on this please let me know
Subject: Re: Gov't of the Regency of Algiers & under French rule - for Digs or historians
From: wolvies-ga on 07 Jan 2003 02:56 PST
 
OOOPS !!!!!! I mean I will KILL this question, not KISS it, tomorrow. Doh !

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