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Subject: Finding a relative (my Father)
Category: Relationships and Society > Relationships
Asked by: ridley-ga
List Price: $100.00
Posted: 03 Jan 2003 22:59 PST
Expires: 02 Feb 2003 22:59 PST
Question ID: 137291
I want to track down private first class Sonny Gray, who was with the
American Army, based at Hergis Camp Kington, England in 1945. He may
well be deceased, but will have a family somewhere in America

Request for Question Clarification by missy-ga on 19 Jan 2003 18:42 PST
Hi ridley,

As has already been noted, we aren't able to give personal contact
details for PFC Gray's family.  However, if you have additional
details about him (such as his hometown, full given name, approximate
enlistment date) and any information about his tour of duty, I should
be able to point you to the proper division of the National Archives
to obtain his service records.  Such records would also give his
discharge date, and the name of his next of kin, which would serve as
a good start for tracking down your relatives.

Have you any of this information?

Also, I've found no references to "Hergis Camp Kington" anywhere.  Are
you certain of this location?  Is it possible that he might have been
stationed elsewhere?  Or perhaps there is a different spelling?

--Missy

Request for Question Clarification by justaskscott-ga on 22 Jan 2003 07:37 PST
I have found information that a Sonny Gray was born on June 7, 1922,
lived in Mississippi at some point before 1951 (the sources do not
indicate whether he was born or died there), and died on February 23,
1990.  I have also found information that a Sonny Gray owned property
in Tchula, Holmes County, Mississippi.

Does the information about the birthdate in 1922, Mississippi, Tchula,
and/or Holmes County indicate that this information relates to the
correct Sonny Gray?

If so, what is the minimum addditional information (if any) you would
need for a sufficient answer?

Request for Question Clarification by justaskscott-ga on 22 Jan 2003 07:48 PST
Also, I should mention that the property in Tchula appears to have
been farm-related property.

Request for Question Clarification by justaskscott-ga on 23 Jan 2003 07:08 PST
As indicated in bcguide's comment, tracking down Sonny Gray's living
relatives would not be permitted on Google Answers.  However, there is
still the option of obtaining information from military records.

You could potentially request information from Sonny Gray's military
service record in two ways: as a member of the general public or as
next-of-kin.

A member of the general public can request information on a veteran's
name, place of birth, service number, rank, dates of service, awards
and decorations, place of entrance and separation, date of death,
geographical location of death, and place of burial.  (I suspect that
not every file has the last three items.)  A next-of-kin can request
more information from the official military personnel file.

Obviously, you would prefer a request as next-of-kin.  But the problem
is that, while you know that you are next-of-kin to an army private
first-class named Sonny Gray, you do not know whether you are
next-of-kin to Sonny Gray with the date of birth and Social Security
Number for the man from Mississippi.  Thus, as a member of the public,
you could provide more information -- to help the archivists find the
correct records -- than as next-of-kin.

I suppose that you could send in a request as a member of the general
public, and then, if the information you receive helps you to
determine that you are indeed next-of-kin to that Sonny Gray, send in
another request as a next-of-kin.

You could also try to send in a request as a next-of-kin -- even
without the extra identifying information -- at the same time as your
request as a member of the general public, and hope that you get the
record for the correct Sonny Gray.

Turnaround time for these requests averages 14-16 weeks, but may be
much longer, since many of the original records were destroyed by fire
30 years ago.

Would you be interested in more information about ordering the
records, along with the other information I mentioned in my original
request for clarification, as an answer?

Request for Question Clarification by justaskscott-ga on 23 Jan 2003 20:55 PST
The place that I have in mind for you to contact is not the Department
of Veterans Affairs.  I think that it is a place that is more likely
to have the information you want, at least if you submit a next-of-kin
request for Sonny Gray.

Perhaps I can provide the information that I have as an answer to a
new question.  (It seems that you have the information about the Sonny
Gray born in 1922, but perhaps not about the property and about
requesting the military records.  I assume that this information would
be useful to you.)

If you were to open a new question that refers to this question (and
specifically to this request for clarification) and that offers less
money (whatever you think would be appropriate), I could give you what
I know.  That way, you would have the option of using that
information, even while you wait to see if anyone can answer the
initial question for you.
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Comments  
Subject: Re: Finding a relative (my Father)
From: bcguide-ga on 04 Jan 2003 01:58 PST
 
Hi,

I'm sorry, but Google Answers discourages and may remove questions
that request private information about individuals.

You might be able to do the search on your own through army records or
with the help of the many agencies that exist to assist in this type
of search.

Do you have any additional information? The first name Sonny is
probably a nickname and not a legal name. Since Gray is a very common
last name, an accurate first name is essential. Any other identifying
information would also be extremely helpful. Do you know where he was
from in the States? Any hints at all would make this a bit easier for
you.

Try to think of any odd references that may have cropped up in the
past.

Good luck!
bcguide-ga
Subject: Re: Finding a relative (my Father)
From: 4keith-ga on 04 Jan 2003 11:45 PST
 
Visit the website www.findpeople.org and post your question on their
free website (free missing person index) so that someone can assist
you.  It helps if you know any additional information, such as his
wife's name or children's names.  Why did you think he might have
family in America--did he die here or live here at some point?  How
old would he be?

SINCERELY,
4keith-ga
Subject: Re: Finding a relative (my Father)
From: tehuti-ga on 19 Jan 2003 19:11 PST
 
The US Army's 107th General Hospital Unit was in Kington,
Herefordshire.  The location of this and a POW camp is now the Hergest
Industrial Estate.
http://www.thisisherefordshire.co.uk/herefordshire/archive/2002/05/30/hereford_news_letters104ZM.html
Therefore, the name would have been Hergest Camp rather than Hergis. 
I have not been able to go any further, but this might give another
researcher a useful lead.
Subject: Re: Finding a relative (my Father)
From: ridley-ga on 19 Jan 2003 23:40 PST
 
Hi, You good people out there trying to help find Sonny Gray.  I had
the name of the camp wrong it was in fact "Hergest Camp" and I don't
know much more than that at this stage.  I have been in touch with the
Kington History Society, who have been very helpful, but I am awaiting
further information from them.

Regards.  ridley
Subject: Re: Finding a relative (my Father)
From: ridley-ga on 21 Jan 2003 22:49 PST
 
Hi again,

        according to my Uncle (my Mother's Brother) Sonny Gray was his
legal name and his family were farmers somewhere in the South of the
USA.  He would have been born between 1918 and 1923.  He apparently
knew I was on the way and offered to marry my Mother and take her back
to the State's.  For whatever reason she declined, he went back and
was never heard of again.  I am now 57 and you may wonder why I am
bothering with this.  Simply, I have been putting the family tree
together and decided to try and solve this little mystery, for Sonny
Gray's 3 Grandchildren and 7 Great Grandchildren.

Kind regards.       ridley.
Subject: Re: Finding a relative (my Father)
From: ridley-ga on 22 Jan 2003 21:46 PST
 
Hi Again,

         I have also found the Mississippi Sonny Gray and yes he does
qualify on a number of counts i.e. age and locality.  But I suppose
the acid test is finding out if he was in the American Army in 1945
and At Hergest Camp Kington.  I don't know how you do that without
tracking down some of his relatives.

Kind regards.      ridley.
Subject: Re: Finding a relative (my Father)
From: ridley-ga on 23 Jan 2003 20:40 PST
 
Thankyou justaskscot,

                    I have in fact written to the "Department of
Veterans Affairs" and requested any information they may have
regarding a Sonny Gray who could have been in Hergest Camp in 1945.  I
am still waiting for a reply.  Also I have written to 15 or so Sonny
Gray's that I found on www.ancestory.com as well as e-mailing 4
others, so far without a result.  I still believe that Mississippi is
the best bet so far.  But without finding a relative to confirm any
involvement in Hergest Camp, I don't know how to proceed.  Could also
be that the relatives don't want to know, it's a hard call.

Kind regards.         ridley.
Subject: Re: Finding a relative (my Father)
From: justaskscott-ga on 24 Jan 2003 21:17 PST
 
Note to Researchers: Perhaps my answer to this related question will
help you in your research.

"Q: Search for Sonny Gray further to my question ID 137291"
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