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Subject: Divine Intellegence
Category: Relationships and Society > Religion
Asked by: sparkie-ga
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Posted: 04 Jan 2003 23:34 PST
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Question ID: 137671
How does one manifest divine intellegence?  Who are the people and
their stories of their spiritual awakening and their life afterwards.
How does one go-about tapping into divine intellengce.  How does this
"awakening" help the planet earth and its group conscieceness to man's
soul evolution.  Places and people to see after an awakening - support
and help. What are some of the examples other people have had and
there journey.  What is the proof and/or system that validates this
theory?
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Subject: Re: Divine Intellegence
Answered By: webadept-ga on 05 Jan 2003 06:55 PST
Rated:4 out of 5 stars
 
Hi, 

First off, wow! big question. 

Two groups come to mind which fit your needs for the points of your
question. The first is Science of Mind, and the second A course in
Miracles. There are others of course, but these two have lasted a very
long time in this area and after looking around for several years I
found them to be more or less, the most "comfortable" on several
levels, including "not feeling like a scam" and level headedness.

Divine intelligence is normally defined as the mind of God in ours.To
manifest Divine Intelligence we must first realize that there is only
God. There is not some greying old man or power sitting some where
outside of ourselves watching us. There is no distinction between what
we see and what we feel and what is God. There is only God. Once this
has been drilled home on a basic fundamental level, then we realize we
are also using a divine intelligence in our lives.

Our first small steps into this way of thinking is to realized that
there are no big or small problems to God. They are all the same size.
Focusing on the size of a problem is using our human "little brains"
not a divine mind. Whatever it is, and how ever important we have
decided a certain problem is, we are wrong on the divine level.
Knowing that here is only god suggests that there are only answers, it
is we that suggest otherwise. We say there is no right without a
wrong, we say there is no up with out a down, and we say that when we
have a problem there must be a solution for it. We say a lot of stuff.
But to the divine mind there is no problem, no up, no down, no large
or small. Everything and everyone is on the same level.

Christ said "the meek shall inherit the earth", and I guess they
deserve that, because the divine mind is not a meek mind and the
inheritance of the Christ is the heavens. Most people are asleep,
Jesus even suggests this when his disciples ask why he preaches in
parables. Basically his answer to them is "What the heck, most of them
aren't going to get it anyway."

One of the things we have to do is separate the real from the false.
For instance, we stop fighting about things that don't matter. I was
at a Christmas party where one of the guests insisted that the date of
Dec 25 was in fact the Christ's birthday, when we know it wasn't, he
was born in April and the 4th Pope changed the celebration to January
6th, which was then change to Dec 25th to cope with existing
celebrations for the winter solstice. I listened to this and realized
that it really doesn't matter. He was born, we know that, and he did
die, we know that too. The only thing that really matters here is can
I look into this man's eyes and see the face of God, and know that he
to is part of God as all things are a part of God. The rest doesn't
matter.

I know that I'm focusing here on the Christ and that's a bit
misleading, and really I'm only doing it because of convenience. The
divine mind is universal and can be heard in all languages through all
experiences. We begin to understand that the music of God is so
apparent and so loud that we hear it all the time, and thus
discontinue hearing it, all we really have to do is stop listening to
all the garbage we have put up to drown it out. Turn on the light, so
to speak. You don't chase darkness from a room with a baseball bat,
shouting "Get out of here darkness", you simply turn on a light.

Who are the people and their stories of their spiritual awakening and
their life afterwards.

There are several I can name here, but I will go with Marianne
Williamson and list a number of books she has written in the links
area below. I've met her several times and have worked with Jacob
Glass as well. I'll post his website down there as well. This part of
the question is kind of like asking me who got drivers licences today
and how did it change their lives. In fact the similarities are so
amazing I may have to bring that up to Jacob and write a post on my
website about this subject.

How does this "awakening" help the planet earth and its group
conscieceness to man's soul evolution.

We know that even the smallest change in a strand of DNA can alter the
being completely. So it is with the single awakening of a single spirt
in this great big world. But to Divine mind we don't seek to change
the world, we seek to change ourselves because they are one and the
same. Again, the divine mind is all that there is.


What is the proof and/or system that validates this theory?

I would be happy to answer this part but I have no idea what context
you are looking for this in. I suggest a Clarification Request here
with a context and I'll follow up with a specific answer.  I think the
resources below are going to answer this more than adequately but I'm
willing to include more if you expound on this part.



I'm going to post a few links for you now and if you have questions I
would be happy to clarify them. I could write all day on this subject,
as I do most days, but really you should get with a group of like
minded people and turn on a light or two.



Links, 

Science of Mind online
http://www.scienceofmind.com/

Jacob Glass
http://www.jacobglass.com/

PCRS
http://www.pcrs.org

A Course in Miracles
http://www.acim.org/

A Return to Love: Reflections on the Principles of a Course in
Miracles
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/textbooks/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=4XW6YIZWUQ&sourceid=00399098076493322220&bfdate=01%2D05%2D2003+09%3A31%3A05&isbn=0060927488&TXT=Y&itm=2

Illuminata: A Return to Prayer
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/textbooks/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=4XW6YIZWUQ&sourceid=00399098076493322220&bfdate=01%2D05%2D2003+09%3A31%3A05&isbn=1573225207&TXT=Y&itm=5

Everyday Grace: Having Hope, Finding Forgiveness, and Making Miracles
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/textbooks/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=4XW6YIZWUQ&sourceid=00399098076493322220&bfdate=01%2D05%2D2003+09%3A31%3A05&isbn=1573222305&TXT=Y&itm=1
sparkie-ga rated this answer:4 out of 5 stars
Thank-you for the additional comments.  They have been very helpful. 
 Jeri. L. Harlan

Comments  
Subject: Re: Divine Intellegence
From: tehuti-ga on 05 Jan 2003 18:49 PST
 
I would simply add that you might wish to explore the vast field of
the Western Mysteries.

One of the precepts of the Mysteries is: "When the seeker is ready,
the teacher will appear".  This means being in the right mindset,
sending out the right messages, until...  For some this is a process
of decades, for others it is shorter.

As for proof and validation.  There is none, for it can only come from
within, and therefore cannot be truly communicated to another.

I wish you well in your seeking.  Remember also, that the true
teachers of these matters do not seek payment.  Beware of anyone who
wishes to extort a lot of money from you, whatever promises they might
make.
Subject: Re: Divine Intellegence
From: hihosilver-ga on 07 Jan 2003 10:48 PST
 
Your researcher did a good job on answering your questions, but there
is one author and one publication that also does so while going even
further. That author is Deepak Chopra, and the book is titled "How to
Know God". I suggest you run, don't walk, to your nearest bookseller
to obtain a copy.

I would also like to comment on webadept-ga's focus on Christian
interpretation, which he/she has already acknowledged. Normative law
in society is often based on religious principles, but that is also
why it's called "normative" and not "empirical" law. There is no
"proof" of anyone's theory concerning religious ethics because there
is no empirical evidence to support them. Not in the Bible, not in the
Koran, not in the Torah - nowhere. There are in some cases observable
data, but that's all. Once we are left with data which SEEMS to
support a given theory but which lacks scientific proof, we enter the
realm of metaphysics. In my view we need to accept that fact and leave
it there.

My general comment in this area would be that all theories of religion
and spirituality belong to the metaphysical, and that Mankind's
dreamed-of final answer to its questions of "Who am I? Why am I here?
and Where am I going?" will forever remain as individual and varied as
there are persons who would ask.
Subject: Re: Divine Intellegence
From: sublime1-ga on 30 Jan 2003 07:08 PST
 
sparkie...

You may enjoy exploring some of the books and people mentioned
in this answer, as well:
https://answers.google.com/answers/main?cmd=threadview&id=141361
Subject: Re: Divine Intellegence
From: intotravel-ga on 06 Feb 2003 23:54 PST
 
Thank you for raising this fascinating topic. 

Today I was reading Dr Richard Moss's book, "The I that is We," and he
describes in detail his own spontaneous awakening. He had to learn to
go beyond his own concepts, his own emotional biography and even
beyond his own relationships (or ideas about them), in the course of
opening to the power and light of God in his life. I find it amazing
that he was able to do * all this * on his own, without any help from
an advanced teacher or even from a book like A Course In Miracles.
(I've only read bits of Dr Moss's book.)

It's quite an achievement.  Even the really great Indian mystics,
Ramana Maharshi, Mother, Vivekananda . . . most of them had a teacher.
 I do think we are coming to a point in human history where more and
more people are going to want to "wake up," and to do this we -- most
of us, need help.

In A Course In Miracles, it says that there are ten thousand paths to
enlightenment. And so there are, to be sure. I'm sure. (It has to be
easy. It's just a case of wanting it, or of being so devastated --
through imprisonment (Sri Aurobindo maybe), "mental illness" (Eckhart
Tolle), addiction (some in AA, not many maybe, but some), that the
Truth comes sweeping into one's mind.)

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."



Story of awakening
==================

Until my thirtieth year, I lived in a state of almost continuous
anxiety interspersed with periods of suicidal depression. It feels now
as if I am talking about some past lifetime or somebody else's life.
One night not long after my twenty-ninth birthday, I woke up in the
early hours with a feeling of absolute dread. I had woken up with such
a feeling many times before, but this time it was more intense than it
had ever been. ...

       "I cannot live with myself any longer." This was the thought
that kept repeating itself in my mind. Then suddenly I became aware of
what a peculiar thought it was. "Am I one or two? If I cannot live
with myself, there must be two of me: the '1' and the 'self' that 'I
cannot live with." "Maybe," I thought, "only one of them is real." I
was so stunned by this strange realization that my mind stopped. I was
fully conscious, but there were no more thoughts. Then I felt drawn
into what seemed like a vortex of energy. It was a slow movement at
first and then accelerated. I was gripped by an intense fear, and my
body started to shake. I heard the words "resist nothing," as if
spoken inside my chest. I could feel myself being sucked into a void.
It felt as if the void was inside myself rather than outside.
Suddenly, there was no more fear, and I let myself fall into that
void. I have no recollection of what happened after that.

       I was awakened by the chirping of a bird outside the window. I
had never heard such a sound before. …  Without any thought, I felt, I
knew, that there is infinitely more to light than we realize. That
soft luminosity filtering through the curtains was love itself.

http://www.eckharttolle.com/mystics_masters.htm


Where to go after an awakening
==============================

Number One, the best help is from somebody who is completely and
totally awake!

Here is one perspective from a disciple of Sai Baba:

I asked myself: Are this person's teachings in accordance with the
ancient wisdom, with the essence of what is taught by all the world
religions, saints or spiritual masters? Is he living what he teaches?
And, for me on a personal level: Can I trust his purity and integrity?
Does he have any personal investment in being an adored figure? Will
he abuse my trust or will he respond to it with integrity?

http://www.visioform.com/Articles/Searching_for_Identity.html#how are
we to know if somebody


Another, from a minister in the US, who provides counselling on his
website:

Feeling the presence of an advanced teacher of God and working with
him or her to have all the puzzle pieces come together is an amazing
experience. First you think you have problems. Then you find all your
solutions falling into place and you may not even know how it
happened.

    So the spiritual counseling you experience with an advanced
teacher of God is quite different than counseling you might experience
in the world.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/1171/counsel.html


The human race and planet earth
===============================

The time has come on earth for the maturing and emergence of
individuals with genuinely expanded ranges of consciousness/mind.
Historically humans have described these individuals as Masters or
avatars or adepts or initiates or even Saviors or Man-Gods. The
accelerated evolution (or even revolution) of mind now in progress on
the planet involves the metamorphosis of what can be termed later-day
Masters.

The material contained herein is representational of the thinking of
this sort of new mindedness. It is an absolutely enlightened order of
thought.

Face it, the human race is finally going to have look squarely at the
idea of atonement or resurrection or a dramatic shift in self-identity
or whatever else you call it.

http://www.spiritualteachersnotebook.com/preface.html



Finding -- and testing -- a teacher: Vivekananda and Sri Ramakrishna 
====================================================================

The great soul in Narendranath [Vivekananda] readily recognized the
extraordinary greatness in Sri Ramakrishna in the form of true love
for God and great renunciation. However, his skepticism and logical
mind was not ready to accept the 'powers' manifested in Sri
Ramakrishna. He thought that this 'simple insane' Brahmin might be
playing tricks with others in the form of hypnotism or mesmerism. His
trance and Samadhi were thought to be the whims and play of
mind/psyche rather than divine super-conscious states. In fact Swami
Vivekananda postponed his visit to Dakshineswar for about six months,
although he had promised Sri Ramakrishna to visit him soon.

     But at last the call of Divine was far too powerful for Narendra
to resist anymore. And one afternoon, alone on foot, he started for
the second meeting with his mentor, and would be Guru, Sri
Ramakrishna. And what did he say? He asked, "Sir, have you seen God?"
Calmly Sri Ramakrishna replied, "Yes, I see Him as clearly as one sees
an apple over the palm, nay, even more intently! And not only this,
you can also see Him." This unusual and most confident answer turned
Narendra to more perplexity and surprise. He had been asking the same
question 'Sir, have you seen God' to many a great religious and noble
persons, but he never got such clear cut answer from any of them. Many
religious Pundits, Devendranath Tagore and many scholars of Brahmo
Movement were reluctant to answer his question with any authority or
resoluteness. But today he got the most emphatic answer in positive.

http://www.indianest.com/people/03002.htm

Best wishes!!! And I hope you find the above helpful. 

intotravel-ga
Subject: Re: Divine Intellegence
From: pugwashjw-ga on 15 Jul 2003 09:13 PDT
 
To find out what God`s intelligence is like, it is necessary to go to
the Bible. HE explains himself at Isaiah 55;8 "For the thoughts of you
people are not my thoughts, nor are my ways, your ways. We cannot even
begin to understand how much more intelligence God has above us mere
humans. But even so, HE chooses people to do HIS will. HE chose Abram,
later Abraham [Nehemiah 9;7] HE chose David, [1 Kings 11;34 " ./..for
the sake of David my servant, WHOM I CHOSE". Jesus said at John 6;70 "
I chose you twelve, did I not?". and who did God choose. This is
answered at 1 Corinthians 1;27 " But God chose the foolish things of
the world, that he might put the wise men to shame, and God chose the
weak things of the world, that he might put the strong things to
shame" And verse 28, " and God chose the ignoble things of the world
and the things looked down upon, the things that are not, THAT HE
MIGHT BRING TO NOTHING, THE THINGS THAT ARE'  So it does not take too
much brainpower to see that God is looking for certain qualities in
people, namely humbleness, kindness, compassion, and peaceableness.
The maqjor religions of the world these days do not possess any of
these qualities, as organizations, but individuals within these
organizations just might. And is God intelligent from a scientific
viewpoint. Just look at Genesis 1;1  "In the beginning....

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