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bad manners = bad habit
Category: Relationships and Society Asked by: gremlin-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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06 Jan 2003 13:35 PST
Expires: 05 Feb 2003 13:35 PST Question ID: 138404 |
I have terrible manners! At the dinner table, the bites I take are way too big, so I have trouble talking while eating, and I tend to get food on the front of my shirt. Instead of holding the door for people, I rudely shove in front of them. When I run into two friends of mine who don't know each other, I rarely introduce them to one another. When I'm in a theatre or some other public setting where loud voices are inappropriate, it rarely occurs to me to lower the volume of my voice... I think my problem is mainly that I'm in the habit of acting a certain way, so it doesn't occur to me to act differently when I'm just going about my daily routine, acting spontaneously. I've thought about using simple tricks like a rubber band around my wrist just to remind me that I'm supposed to be acting more gentlemanly. I thought I would ask if of you had any insights into how to go about acquiring good manners. |
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Re: bad manners = bad habit
Answered By: nancylynn-ga on 14 Jan 2003 06:33 PST Rated: |
Greetings gremlin-ga: You asked: "I thought I would ask if of you had any insights into how to go about acquiring good manners." First, I want to say that Pinkfreud's suggestion is marvelous. Is there anyone more considerate and tactful than Angela Lansbury? So do choose a role model. I agree with you that your problem may go a bit deeper than lack of etiquette. I suspect that, like me, you have ADHD (Attention Deficit with Hyperactivity Disorder), a condition that doesn't necessarily magically subside after childhood. We "ADDers" are often "outed" in social situations because we are simply overwhelmed by stimuli. We are often guilty of talking too loudly, interrupting others, sometimes appearing oblivious, and violating the "personal space" rule, among other sins. The fact that you eat too fast and often rush through a door without holding it open for others -- even though you know these are unattractive traits -- further suggests ADHD. Do you feel like you have an internal motor; a constant need to rush, move along, hurry up; that you are always impulsive? Do you often have trouble focusing, but at other times "hyperfocus": become completely one-track minded? If you think you may have ADD, I strongly recommend you read DRIVEN TO DISTRACTION by psychiatrists Edward Hallowell and John Ratey. (Paperback: Touchstone Books; Reprint edition: March 1995.): http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684801280/qid=1042551496/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-5286609-9063016 And/or it's sequel: ANSWERS TO DISTRACTION by Hallowell and Ratey. (Bantam Books: April 1996.) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/055337821X/qid=1042551449/sr=2-2/ref=sr_2_2/103-5286609-9063016 I have also read and can recommend: YOU MEAN I'M NOT LAZY, STUPID, OR CRAZY?! A SELF-HELP BOOK FOR ADULTS WITH ADD by Kate Kelly, Peggy Ramundo, and Larry B. Silver. (Contains lots of helpful tips on behavior modification.) (Paperback: Fireside; Reprint edition: January 1996.) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0684815311/qid=1042552201/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-5286609-9063016?v=glance&s=books A book recommended by many fellow "ADDers" is ADVENTURES IN FAST FORWARD [sound familiar?!] by Kathleen G. Nadeau. (Paperback: Brunner/Mazel Trade, May 1996.) I've given you the Amazon.com links, but you can find many of these same books at Barnes & Noble or other book dealers. There's also your local library and inter-library loan. As long as you're shopping, or browsing the public library, you may want to pick up these highly recommended etiquette guides: MISS MANNERS' GUIDE TO EXCRUCIATINGLY CORRECT BEHAVIOR (see the chapter on table manners) by Judith Martin (out of print), which you can buy used at: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0446386324/ref=pd_sim_books_4/103-5286609-9063016?v=glance&s=books THE AMY VANDERBILT COMPLETE BOOK of ETIQUETTE by Nancy Tuckerman, Nancy Dunnan, and Amy "Etiquette" Vanderbilt. (Doubleday: February 1995.) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385413424/ref=pd_sim_books_4/103-5286609-9063016?v=glance&s=books#product-details Using the search string "good manners advice adults," I found two comprehensive, helpful sites: Good Manners -- Your Way (affiliated with THE LADIES' HOME JOURNAL) by Deborah Pike: http://www.lhj.com/lhj/printableStory.jhtml?storyid=/templatedata/lhj/story/data/16174.xml Rude Busters! http://www.rudebusters.com/Etiqet-M.htm Using the search string "understanding adult ADD" I found this comprehensive site for ADDA (Attention Deficit Disorder Association), run by ADD expert Kate Kelly. This site offers tons of info and links, plus listings for ADD support groups: http://www.add.org/content/group/kate1.htm Only a doctor or qualified therapist can officially diagnose you with ADD or ADHD. But many ADDers do accurately self-diagnose themselves after reading materials about adult ADD. If you recognize yourself in reading about the topic, you may want to seek professional help for behavior modification. Please understand that ADD is not a character flaw; it's a genetically caused neurobiological condition. Basically, you know what you're doing wrong and what you need to correct. Good for you! It takes a big person to admit his/ her faults! The above books can help you modify your behavior. It's up to you to keep monitoring yourself to make sure you're maintaining the good social skills you've striven to achieve. I have a feeling you're going to do just fine. I hope you find the above information helpful. Regards, nancylynn-ga | |
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Re: bad manners = bad habit
From: pinkfreud-ga on 06 Jan 2003 14:01 PST |
I have a simple trick that I've used for years. I find it helpful to pretend that I am someone else, someone who has impeccable manners. When I am called upon to be mannerly, I ask myself, "What would Angela Lansbury do?" ...and I act accordingly. Obviously this works best if you choose a person whose manners and style you admire, someone with class. It probably wouldn't improve things much if you asked yourself "What would Tom Green do?" |
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Re: bad manners = bad habit
From: nosuchnickname-ga on 21 Jan 2003 12:17 PST |
Most people probably notice your behavior (unless you live in the northeast) and are simply not inclined to put themselves out to help you. You appearently know what behaviors are appropriate and what isn't- so your problem is that you have not internalized these rules into your everyday life. Purchase a electonic dog training collar, stap it to you ankle, and give the remote to whomever is in your immediate company at the time and ask them to give you a "reminder" when you are acting "like a dog". |
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Re: bad manners = bad habit
From: nancylynn-ga on 07 Feb 2003 09:07 PST |
Thank you gremlin-ga for the very nice rating! I'm glad I could help you. Regards, nancylynn-ga |
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Re: bad manners = bad habit
From: level80-ga on 13 Feb 2003 20:28 PST |
I would suggest it is not ADHD - but Aspergers Syndrome. It sounds more like Aspergers Syndrome. (It could be ADHD and AS - or I could just be wrong). If it is - you are born that way and there is very little you can do consciously about it. For more information on Aspergers Syndrome try reading Aspergers Syndrome: For parents and professionals by Dr. Tony Attwood. You could also try some of the sites listed here - http://www.udel.edu/bkirby/asperger/ |
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Re: bad manners = bad habit
From: nancylynn-ga on 22 Feb 2003 06:43 PST |
Hello level80-ga: You wrote: "I would suggest it is not ADHD - but Aspergers Syndrome. It sounds more like Aspergers Syndrome . . ." Someone with Aspergers would be oblivious to their faults (they have practically no self-perception), whereas gremlin-ga is very aware of what he/she is doing wrong. Also, gremlin-ga's self-described problems are indicative of a need to rush (eating too fast, interrupting) and that's in-line with ADHD. People with Aspergers (for example, Bill Gates is believed to have Aspergers), don't so much interrupt, but drone, often in a monotone, and they tend to be fixated on about 1 -- 3 topics total. One thing these neuro-biological disorders have in common is a poor ability to read social cues. Neither condition can be fully cured (and Aspergers is far more serious & far more isolating condition), but cognitive & behavorial therapy can help. Just the same, your suggestion is a worthy one and I would encourage gremlin-ga to read the link you provided -- even if just for the sake of comparison. Sincerely, nancylynn-ga |
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Re: bad manners = bad habit
From: maxhodges-ga on 07 Mar 2003 14:07 PST |
Understanding the benefits of good manners would probably be a start. Try "The Etiquette Advantage in Business" by Post |
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