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Subject: Google searching
Category: Computers > Internet
Asked by: invoke-ga
List Price: $5.00
Posted: 06 Jan 2003 17:43 PST
Expires: 05 Feb 2003 17:43 PST
Question ID: 138537
Hey there,

My question.

When I use google search with

"link:paintballmayhem.com"
or
"link:www.paintballmayhem.com"
i get search results. 


But, when i use
"link:www.paintballgear.ca"
i get some links (but not all)
and when i use this: 
"link:paintballgear.ca"
i get no results. why is this?

why do i either get some or no link results. All link pages have been
submitted to ://www.google.com/addurl.html
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Subject: Re: Google searching
Answered By: aceresearcher-ga on 06 Jan 2003 19:40 PST
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Greetings, invoke!

The "link" command returns a list of pages the Google indexer has
identified as having links to these two sites.

Plug link:www.paintballmayhem.com into Google, and the following pages
appear:
1. http://www.spplatattack.com/print.php?sid=7 
2. http://www.smyles.net/frenzy/links.htm 
3. http://directory.google.com/Top/Shopping/Sports/Paintball
4. http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Sports/Paintball
5. http://www.gunhoo.com/gunhoo/t.paintball.htm 
6. http://www.gunhoo.com/gunhoo/r.canada.htm 
7. http://www.gunhoo.com/gunhoo/alpha/alpha24.htm 
8. http://www.paulfirlotte.com
9. http://www.thempn.com/links.htm 

Pages #1, 3 and 4 contain links to both 
http://www.paintballmayhem.com  and
http://www.paintballgear.ca

However, Pages #2, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 all contain links to:
http://www.paintballmayhem.com  BUT NOT to
http://www.paintballgear.ca
--> so you wouldn't expect these pages to show up in a "link" search
for the Gear site.


Likewise, plug link:www.paintballgear.ca into Google, and the
following pages appear:
10. http://directory.google.com/Top/Shopping/Sports/Paintball 
11. http://directory.google.com/Top/Regional/North_America/Canada/British_Columbia/Localities/V/Vancouver/Business_and_Economy/Shopping/Sporting_Goods
12. http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Sports/Paintball
13. http://www.invokemedia.com/index2.phtml/portfolio

Pages #10 and 12 contain links to both 
http://www.paintballgear.ca  and
http://www.paintballmayhem.com

However, Pages #11 and 13 all contain links to:
http://www.paintballgear.ca  BUT NOT to
http://www.paintballmayhem.com  
--> so you wouldn't expect these pages to show up in a "link" search
for the Mayhem site.


If you plug link:paintballmayhem.com into Google, the exact same list
of 9 links appears as for link:www.paintballmayhem.com .

But if you plug link:paintballgear.ca into Google, no links appear at
all.
Why is that?

In addition to its US site at
://www.google.com (USA)
Google maintains a number of mirror sites for various countries, such
as:
://www.google.fr (France)
://www.google.co.uk (United Kingdom)
://www.google.ca (Canada)

While Google does not like to reveal TOO much about the secrets of its
Search Engine success, we do know that the searching and indexing
algorithms for the different countries' mirror Search Engine sites
have all been tweaked slightly in an effort to provide the most
relevant results for that country.

While the Google indexer creates duplicate entries for links to 
http://paintballmayhem.com  and
http://www.paintballmayhem.com
by removing the "www" from the link to create the second entry,
it appears that the indexing algorithm has been set up to only index
the main link for sites ending in ".ca", and to not make the
additional effort to index the link to that site by removing the
"www".


Search Strategy

link:www.paintballmayhem.com
://www.google.com/search?q=link:www.paintballmayhem.com&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=0

link:paintballmayhem.com
://www.google.com/search?q=link:paintballmayhem.com&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=0

link:www.paintballgear.ca
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=link%3Awww.paintballgear.ca

link:paintballgear.ca
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=link%3Apaintballgear.ca


Before Rating my Answer, if you have questions about this information,
please post a Request for Clarification, and I will be glad to see
what I can do for you.

I hope that this Answer provides exactly the information you were
seeking!

Regards,

aceresearcher

Request for Answer Clarification by invoke-ga on 06 Jan 2003 19:53 PST
Thanks for the great quick response.

I have a couple of questions:


>Pages #1, 3 and 4 contain links to both  
>http://www.paintballmayhem.com  and 
>http://www.paintballgear.ca <<<<Is this a typo?

from the list below, http://www.paintballgear.ca isn't linked to #1

Plug link:www.paintballmayhem.com into Google, and the following pages
appear:
1. http://www.spplatattack.com/print.php?sid=7  
2. http://www.smyles.net/frenzy/links.htm  
3. http://directory.google.com/Top/Shopping/Sports/Paintball 
4. http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Sports/Paintball 
5. http://www.gunhoo.com/gunhoo/t.paintball.htm  
6. http://www.gunhoo.com/gunhoo/r.canada.htm  
7. http://www.gunhoo.com/gunhoo/alpha/alpha24.htm  
8. http://www.paulfirlotte.com 
9. http://www.thempn.com/links.htm  
 
Pages #1, 3 and 4 contain links to both  
http://www.paintballmayhem.com  and 
http://www.paintballgear.ca 

Could you also expand on why only some links appear in the links, when
you do a search for just "paintballgear.ca" i get a lot of link
responses.

Cheers,

Ryan

Clarification of Answer by aceresearcher-ga on 06 Jan 2003 21:48 PST
invoke,

My apologies, that is indeed a typo: #1 was supposed to be on the
"Does Not" list, rather than the "Does" list.

Web Search guru and Researcher robertskelton-ga was kind enough to
help me out with the 2nd part of your request:
"Google's backward links tend to be incomplete. The most common theory
that I've read at WebMasterWorld is that the link: command will only
list sites with a PR of 3 or higher."

Bear in mind that the Googlers are quite protective of their secret
Search technology, so much of what we know about how Google works has
been arrived at through trial-and-error investigation by hundreds (or
more likely thousands) of Webmasters and Researchers.

If you are interested in learning more about the facts and the
speculation regarding the mysterious machinations of the Almighty
Google, I recommend that you check out WebMasterWorld at
http://www.webmasterworld.com , where some of the best and brightest
minds on the Internet have posted a lot of helpful information.

Again, before Rating my Answer, if you have questions about this
information,
please post a Request for Clarification, and I will be glad to see
what I can do for you.
 
I hope that you now feel that you have reached the "enlightenment" you
were seeking! :)

Regards, 
 
aceresearcher
invoke-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
Quick responses, great help.

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