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Interstellar Pulsar Map
Category: Science > Astronomy Asked by: eurisko97-ga List Price: $7.00 |
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17 Jan 2003 10:39 PST
Expires: 16 Feb 2003 10:39 PST Question ID: 144799 |
A plaque attached to Pioneer 10 and 11 as well as Voyager 1 and 2 contained a "Pulsar Map" of 14 pulsars as a way for extraterrestrial beings to locate earth. What are the names of these Pulsars and where are they located? | |
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Re: Interstellar Pulsar Map
Answered By: tar_heel_v-ga on 28 Jan 2003 05:02 PST Rated: ![]() |
Eurisko.. Wow. Your question was very interesting and I would have thought that with a little digging, the information would not be that difficult to uncover. I couldn't have been more wrong. After spending about 5 or so hours researching your question, I sent an email to Robert Johnston, the webmaster of Johnston's Archive, http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/astro/, which is a fantastic collection of the astronomy resources. Here is a breakdown of our first correspondence: "That has got to be the most interesting question I've gotten to date. All I know right now is that Frank Drake came up with the map at the last minute shortly before the launch of Pioneer 10 in 1972 and that at the time two of the pulsars had periods known only to seven places (decimal or binary, I don't know). If nothing else, I should be able to work it out from the map, right? I'll see what I can find out. Bob Johnston ----- Original Message ----- To: wrjohnston@prodigy.net Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:41 PM Subject: Pulsar question Good evening... I hope I am not intruding, but I was doing some research and was hoping you might be able to help. The plaque on the various Pioneer spacecraft has an interstellar map that shows 14 pulsars as a way of finding Earth. Which 14 pulsars are these? Thanks!" Now, from his initial response, I didn't hold out much hope for being able to get a concrete answer. Wrong again. This morning, I received the following: "OK, I think I have something. I'm not 100% sure here, but this looks good: I came up with a list of 147 known pulsars from 1975 (Taylor and Manchester, Astronomical Journal, 1975, 80:794+) and came up with apparent matches to the periods and approximate distances in a depiction of the pulsar map in Murmers of Earth (Sagan et ali, 1978). I haven't yet measured angles from the diagram, which would provide addition confirmation, but these periods match to within 1 ppm for 10 pulsars, and one part in 50,000 to one in 800 for the other four. Here are the 14, clockwise from the line indicating direction to the center of the galaxy: J1731-4744 = B1727-47 J1456-6843 = B1451-68 J1243-6423 = B1240-64 J0835-4510 = B0833-45 J0953+0755 = B0950+08 J0826+2637 = B0823+26 J0534+2200 = B0531+21 J0528+2200 = B0525+21 J0332+5434 = B0329+54 J2219+4754 = B2217+47 J2018+2839 = B2016+28 J1935+1616 = B1933+16 J1932+1059 = B1929+10 J1645-0317 = B1642-03 Once I finish some checks, I'll post some details on my web site. (I had e-mailed the Planetary Society and asked them, but got no response; the SETI Institute would be another possible source.)" Once we have these listings, you can go to the Princeton Pulsar Map Applet at http://pulsar.princeton.edu/pulsar/map/PulsarMap.html and you can get additional information about the respective pulsars. If you click on "Search By Name" and enter the information on the left hand side of the list above without the "J" it plot the location of the pulsar on the map. Make sure that at least the box that is labeled "Match Jnames" is checked. If Mr. Johnston provides any additional information, I will let you know. I have to say that this has been a great question to research and I hope the above information has been helpful. If you need any additional clarification, please let me know prior to rating my answer. Regards, -THV Search Strategy: pulsar map | |
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Re: Interstellar Pulsar Map
From: tehuti-ga on 21 Jan 2003 03:16 PST |
Hello eurisko97 I've only been able to find that the pulsars are located in the Milky Way: "The representation of humans is accompanied by a chart: a pattern of lines beside the figures standing for the 14 pulsars of the Milky Way, the whole being designed to locate the sun of our universe." http://www.aber.ac.uk/media/Documents/S4B/sem08.html "It also has a polar plot of the positions of 14 pulsars relative to the Sun, with the pulsars specified by giving their periods as base 2 integers - but with trailing zeros inserted to cover inadequate precision." http://www.wolframscience.com/reference/notes/1189c The names given to pulsars are, for the most part numeric codes: "No universal naming convention for all the potential gamma-ray pulsars interesting for GLAST to observe. Some pulsars have only "PSR Jxxxx+xx" name, while Geminga doesn't have a "PSR" name. Some pulsars have multiple names (e.g. the Crab pulsar). PSR Jxxxx+xx[xx[aa]] All radio pulsars have this type of name. Radio-quiet pulsars (such as Geminga) do not have this type of name. PSR Bxxxx+xx Some, but not all radio pulsars have this type of name. Radio-quiet pulsars (such as Geminga) do not have this type of name. Unique name (e.g. Crab, Vela, Geminga) Only several famous pulsars have a name of this type. Newly discovered non-radio pulsar will have this type of name, most likely. CatalogName Jxxxx+xx[xx[aa]] Geminga is also 3EG J0633+1751. Even radio-quiet pulsars can have this type of name. Although most pulsars have an official "PSR J" name, newly discovered non-radio pulsars (such as "Geminga-like" pulsars) will not have such a name until their pulsations are detected in radio wavelengths. Some theoretical works indicate that GLAST will discover several to a few tens of radio-quiet pulsars." http://glast.gsfc.nasa.gov/ssc/dev/psr_tools/issue.html |
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Re: Interstellar Pulsar Map
From: tar_heel_v-ga on 21 Jan 2003 06:15 PST |
I sent an email to a pulsar expert I found on a newsgroup. He replied that it was one of the most interesting questions he has had to date but is going to try by looking at the map todetermine which ones they are and will get back to me. Regards, -THV |
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Thank you
From: eurisko97-ga on 21 Jan 2003 09:58 PST |
Thank you very much for your efforts. Let's hope we can get an answer somehow sometime soon. :-) |
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