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Subject: Sweet Corn Canning - How do they get the Corn off the Cob?
Category: Science > Agriculture and Farming
Asked by: addie-ga
List Price: $2.50
Posted: 19 Jan 2003 09:27 PST
Expires: 18 Feb 2003 09:27 PST
Question ID: 145556
Hello GA!

How does the industrial process for the removal of sweet corn from
their cobs before being tinned work? I would like the name of the
machine and a detailed description on the process and if possible any
pictures would be very helpful.

I have googled for this extensively and have found many references to
the home canning and preparation of sweet corn but none which detail
the process of this in a mass industrial environment where many
thousand must be prepared in a short space of time. I have e-mailed a
major producer of tinned sweet corn products,  "The Jolly Green
Giant", but have not yet had any response. They incidentally claim on
their products that their corn is frozen within two hours of being
picked, which indicates a very quick and efficient piece of machinery.

Please excuse my relatively low price, but if the answer is what I was
looking for I shall provide an additional tip. (I'm a poor student!)

Good Luck!

Addie.
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Subject: Re: Sweet Corn Canning - How do they get the Corn off the Cob?
Answered By: googlenut-ga on 19 Jan 2003 16:11 PST
Rated:2 out of 5 stars
 
Hello addie-ga,

This is a great question.  As a corn lover, I’ve wondered how they do
this, but I never looked into.  Thanks for giving me a good excuse.

They are able to do this so quickly because, the corn kernels are
removed from the cob (thrashed) on the field as they are picked, by a
combine.

A good discussion, including pictures, can be found at CyberSpace
Farm, a website Sponsored by Kansas Women Involved in Farm Economics
(WIFE):

Harvesting Fall Crops: Corn, Milo & Soybeans, By Ina, Golden Waves
WIFE
http://www.cyberspaceag.com/photoessays/harvestingfallcrops.htm

This article states the following:

“This combine has a "corn-head" attached to the front. With each trip
through the field, this combine will pick and thrash eight rows of
corn, planted in rows 30 inches apart. The combine has a grain tank
for holding the thrashed grain. When that tank is full, it must be
dumped (unloaded) before the combine can go back to thrashing. The
combine operator is unloading the grain tank into a waiting truck,
which will carry the corn to a storage facility.”


The process of removing the corn from the cob with a combine is also
called shelling.

According to Thomas H. Herdt, College of Veterinary Medicine, Michigan
State University (http://cvm.msu.edu/courses/Lcs643/conc/sld007.htm):

“Harvesting corn with a combine is often referred to shelling corn,
i.e. removing the corn grain from the cob.”


This type of combine is also called a “picker-sheller”.

According to IndianCommodity.com
(http://www.indiancommodity.com/grain/corn.htm):

“Harvest usually starts in early October, once the kernels have dried
(optimally to between 15 to 22 percent range). A special combine known
as a "picker-sheller" is used, which removes the ear from the plant,
removes the husks from the ear and shells the grain by removing the
kernels from the cob. Most of the corn usually is harvested by mid
November. “


Detailed pictures of a combine can be seen at the website of Gorden
Harvesting Equipment (http://www.harvesting.com/).

According to an essay titled “Farming Methods and Practices” at the
website of David Kusel
(http://www.davidkusel.com/centennial/237farming.htm)

“Mechanical corn pickers and combines have drastically changed the
time involved to harvest a corn crop. It is now common to have a
combine harvest 6,000 to 8,000 bushels per day, and this includes
getting the corn off the cob. No longer are winter days spent feeding
corn into a sheller to separate the corn from the cob. The U.S. Dept.
of Agriculture estimates that if the average corn crop in 1981 were
husked by hand, it would take a crew of 937,500 men working 100 days
to get the job done.”


Just a bit of trivia, Joseph Briggs invented the first corn sheller in
1845 (AmericanArtifacts.com,
http://www.americanartifacts.com/smma/sheller/sp44.htm)


I hope you have found this information helpful. If you have any
questions, please request clarification prior to rating the answer.

Good luck with your studies and eat lots of corn!

Googlenut


Google Search Terms:

industrial food processing corn cob
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"picker-sheller"
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=%22picker-sheller%22&btnG=Google+Search

shelling corn 
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=shelling+corn

combine corn cob
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=combine+corn+cob&btnG=Google+Search

Clarification of Answer by googlenut-ga on 19 Jan 2003 16:28 PST
Hello addie-ga,

A couple of the links didn't work because I put the colon in the wrong place.

I've put the correct links here:

Thomas H. Herdt, College of Veterinary Medicine, Michigan
State University 
http://cvm.msu.edu/courses/Lcs643/conc/sld007.htm


According to IndianCommodity.com
http://www.indiancommodity.com/grain/corn.htm


Googlenut

Request for Answer Clarification by addie-ga on 20 Jan 2003 04:25 PST
I'm not overly happy with this answer as I feel it hasn't answered the
question directly but instead given lots of information surrounding
the question. I have read most of the links and have not yet found the
answer to my question. The question is how is the corn removed from
the cob - not the whole process of the havesting of the corn.

I require a detailed explaination of the process of removing the corn
from the cob - that is all that I require. Questions raised should be
those such as:

1.) How are all the sweet corn the same size?
2.) The cob goes to a fine point at the end, how does the machine cope
with this.

I am inclined to agree with efn-ga on this one as I was lead to
believe that the processing is seperated from the havesting process
and I notive some of your research applys more to the milling of wheat
corn then sweet corn.

I think some more research is required with a more direct focus on a
explaination of removing the corn from the cob not information
surrounding that point.

Clarification of Answer by googlenut-ga on 20 Jan 2003 11:30 PST
Hello addie-ga,

Thanks to sparky4ca-ga and efn-ga for their very good comments.

On the question of sweet corn being threshed in the field or at a
later point in processing, the references to sweet corn being packed
on the ear may be referring to sweet corn that is sold on the ear
(corn on the cob).

However, sweet corn is threshed in the field as confirmed by the
following references:

Performance of Processing Sweet Corn Cultivars at Selected Spacings,
Plateau Experiment Station, 2000, Charles A. Mullins University of
Tenessee, Biosystems Engineering & Environmental Science
(http://bioengr.ag.utk.edu/Extension/ExtProg/Vegetable/year/VegInitReport00/5performance_of_processing_sweet_.htm)
“Processing sweet corn has increased in acreage in west Tennessee in
recent years. The crop is fully mechanized and kernels are cut from
the ear in the field. High production levels are needed, and closer
plant spacing generally have been effective in increasing yields of
sweet corn. Ear size is not a major concern in processing sweet corn
as long as the harvesters can be efficient in removing kernels from
the ear. The harvesters are set at 30 inch row spacing so in-row
spacing is the only factor that can be used effectively to manipulate
plant population.”


Nebraska Farm Bureau News, http://www.fb.com/nefb/ag-ed/corn.html
“Sometime between late September and November the corn will be dry
enough to be picked, or harvested.  Corn is harvested by a large
machine called a combine.  The combine cuts off the plant, removes the
ear of corn and separates the kernels from the corn cob.  The corn
stalks and corncobs are left in the field to protect the soil for the
next year.”
 ---
“After harvest, the corn kernels will go to a processing plant to be
made into food.  Corn makes oil, syrup, cereal, starch and more than
1,000 other products you can buy at the grocery store.”


Regarding how the combine works, it seems that the kernels are
“rubbed” off the cob.

The Purdue University class notes, Combine Components: Functions and
Adjustments, ASM 222 Classnotes, Prepared by Doug Biehl (October 7,
1994), (http://pasture.ecn.purdue.edu/~gem/class/asm222/combcomp.pdf),
state the following:

“Threshing is the action that removes the seed from the cobs, pods, or
heads of the crop. The threshing operation takes place between the
traditionally stationary concave and a rotating cylinder.”
 
The notes go on to say:

“The action of the cylinder rubbing the crop against the concave
causes the crop to be threshed.”
 

On the question of the “fine point” on the end of the corn and the
size of the kernels, I believe that the separating and cleaning
processes are where this is handled.

The Purdue University document provides the following descriptions:

“Separation is the act of separating any threshed grain from straw,
stalks, and some chaff. In conventional type systems separation takes
place in the cylinder and on the straw walkers. Separation only takes
place in the cylinder-concave area in rotor type combines.”

 ---

“Cleaning is the final step in the harvesting process other than the
handling of the grain. The cleaning unit takes the threshed, separated
grain and cleans it from any chaff present. The cleaning function
takes place in the shoe section of the combine. The shoe consists of
three main parts: chaffer sieve, shoe sieve, and fan.”

 ---

“The chaffer openings control how much material can pass through onto
the shoe
sieve. Most combines today provide adjustable chaffer openings. Larger
pieces of
straw and chaff pass over the chaffer sieve while grain and smaller
chaff pass through to the shoe sieve. For corn and soybeans, most
companies suggest a chaffer opening of 1/2" to 5/8". If the chaffer
opening is too large too much material will pass on to the shoe sieve
overloading it. The opening is the open distance from one row of
louvers to the other.”


Other references that you may find interesting”

Rootsweb.com, How a Combine Harvester Works
http://www.rootsweb.com/~pollubel/rural/comhow.htm
Doesn’t specifically address corn.

U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, Crop Threshing Or Separating
http://www.uspto.gov/go/classification/uspc460/defs460.htm

I also recommend a review of sparky4ca-ga's references for some
detailed information about combines.


This is the most detailed information that I was able to find.  I hope
it satisfies your needs.

Googlenut


Google Search Terms:

processing "sweet corn" cob machine
://www.google.com/search?q=processing+%22sweet+corn%22+cob+machine&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off

processing "sweet corn" cob
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=processing+%22sweet+corn%22+cob&btnG=Google+Search

combine kernel corn thresh
://www.google.com/search?q=combine+kernel+corn+thresh&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&start=10&sa=N

"how" combine works corn harvest OR thresh
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=%22how%22+combine+works+corn+harvest+OR+thresh&btnG=Google+Search

"how" combine works corn harvest OR thresh cylinder
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=%22how%22+combine+works+corn+harvest+OR+thresh+cylinder
addie-ga rated this answer:2 out of 5 stars
There was just too much (often conflicting) information here to draw
out the answer to my question. I feel my question hasn't been brought
to closure but rather blown wider open. A summery such as "The corn is
fed into machine X lenthways where it is measured and a round blade
cuts off the corn" would have made this question much easier reading.
It maybe that there is diffrent methods but there is just too much
here.

Comments  
Subject: Re: Sweet Corn Canning - How do they get the Corn off the Cob?
From: sparky4ca-ga on 19 Jan 2003 17:43 PST
 
Well, I forgot about renewing my lock on the question, so I am going
to post my research as a comment so that it might not have been wasted
time.

According to this document,
http://www.ddgs.umn.edu/davis-processing.pdf
The  corn has already been shelled when it arrives at processing
plant. This gives me an important clue – off-cobbing is called
“shelling”.

This site, which is some sort of business directory,
http://www.xoi.info/business/site_map/index8.shtml.
Brought me to a page listing other pages about corn shelling, at:
http://www.xoi.info/business/dir/c/Corn_Shelling/index.shtml

“Harvesting corn with a combine is often referred to shelling corn,
i.e. removing the corn grain from the cob”
http://cvm.msu.edu/courses/Lcs643/conc/sld007.htm

So it sounds like the combine is what does the trick. Let’s see what
else we can find.

Another method is to use a picking machine, store the corn in a crib
to dry, and then put it through a shelling machine. Here are some
pictures of a shelling machine:
http://community-2.webtv.net/FureLW/ShellingCorn/

From reading through the rest of the information at 
http://cvm.msu.edu/courses/Lcs643/conc/sld007.htm
I learned that the pick, dry, and then shell method is getting less
popular because it’s harder to handle cobs then it is kernels in a
machine.

Another picture of a shelling machine:
http://www.fielderschoicedirect.com/About_Us/Tour_Pages/Sheller.asp

offbeat – a shelling article from 1869
http://www.americanartifacts.com/smma/sheller/jpsmith.htm

Pictures of a combine:
http://www.farmequip.com/jd95002.jpg
http://www.farmequip.com/jdcomb1.jpg
http://www.farmequip.com/jdcomb2.jpg
http://www.farmequip.com/9500jd.jpg
http://www.farmequip.com/jdcomb3.jpg
http://www.farmequip.com/jd9610.jpg
http://www.farmequip.com/casecomb.jpg
http://www.farmequip.com/cihcomb.jpg
http://www.farmequip.com/cihfield.jpg
http://www.farmequip.com/cihcomb3.jpg
http://www.farmequip.com/cihcomb8.jpg
http://www.farmequip.com/r52.jpg

More pictures of combines and other farm equipment:
http://www.moore-warner.com/equip.htm
Here is a site where you can search for and find various combines and
shellers for sale:
http://www.agdealer.com
In the search box, type a keyword such as “corn combine” into the
keywords line and click search.

Another list of models can be found at:
http://www.deere.com/en_US/ProductCatalog/FR/category/FR_COMBINES.html?subCat=Combines

Here’s a bit of a description of how a combine works:
“Other machinery we’re checking includes combines for harvesting milo,
corn, soybeans for fall harvest.  We have several different kinds of
headers that will cut the different kinds of grain.  Then an auger
pulls it into the machine to thresh out the grain.  Other augers move
the grain into the combine bin.”
http://www.cyberspaceag.com/farmfamily-deanna9-01.htm

Some general info, and a brief description of a combine:
http://www.squirrelsfedhere.com/a_lot_about_corn.htm

A school form that has some lists of the parts/steps in a combine
http://pasture.ecn.purdue.edu/~gem/class/asm222/combho.pdf

Another general info:
http://www.agintheclassroom.org/resources/guides/k_3langa.pdf

This document has some descriptions of the inner workings of the
combine:
http://www.ca.uky.edu/agc/pubs/id/id139/harvesting.pdf


Some detailed descriptions of parts of the process:
This thing, a draper platform, would seem to be what cuts the corn
down to begin with:
http://manuals.deere.com/omview/OMH201805_19/

then the corn goes through the corn head:
“The gatherer points (A) are positioned between the rows of corn.
Stalk rolls (B) grab the corn stalks and pull them rapidly down
between the rolls.
When an ear of corn reaches the deck plate, the ear is prevented from
going through because of the narrow opening. The stalk rolls continue
to pull on the stalk and snap the ear free of the stalk.
Gatherer chains (C) catch the ears and carry them to an auger (D)
which delivers the ears to the feeder conveyor. The feeder conveyor
delivers the ears to the threshing cylinder
“
http://manuals.deere.com/omview/OMH175279_19/
that covers the process at the corn head position.

This manual,
http://manuals.deere.com/omview/OMH175213_19/
talks extensively about the operation of the combine, including the
various steps.

Brittanica.com has an article about combines, but it is a pay service.

I hope this information I helpful to you, and thanks again for giving
me a chance to learn lots about farming that I didn’t know before.

-sparky4ca-ga




Search strategies – 
Google.ca
	industrial corn processing
	industrial corn shelling
	farm equipment corn combine
	how does a corn combine work?
	learning about combines corn
	learn how combine corn husk shell remove
	how farm combine works
	corn combine owner's manual
askjeeves.com
	How does a combine work? (links to a page that doesn’t exist. If they
update this it could be a great site.)
About.com
	Farm equipment
	Farm combines
Subject: Re: Sweet Corn Canning - How do they get the Corn off the Cob?
From: efn-ga on 19 Jan 2003 19:34 PST
 
My research indicates that sweet corn is packed on the ear, not
shelled in the field, and the processing plant has a machine called a
"husker" to remove the husks and another machine called a "cutter" to
cut the kernels off the ears.


References:

Oregon State University article on Sweet Corn for Processing
http://oregonstate.edu/Dept/NWREC/corn-pr.html

"Sweet corn is generally packed in wirebound wooden crates which can
hold from 4 to 6 dozen ears, depending on the size of the crate or
ears." according to Jonathan R. Schultheis of North Carolina State
University, in an article on "Sweet Corn Production."
http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/hil/hil-13.html

foodprocessingmachinery.com has "Corn Cutters" as a product category
http://www.processfood.com/productLocator/fruit/product1S.cfm?ID1=%20Corn%20Cutters

A & K Development Company makes corn huskers and cutters.  They also
make an "orienter," which positions ears for feeding into a cutter.
http://www.akdco.com/history.html

FMC FoodTech shows a picture of their corn cutter.
http://www.fmcfoodtech.com/FMC/fruit/__fruit_product_display_detail_action/1,11196,141,00.html?redir=1&SLogo=

A reminiscence that refers to a corn cutter as a "Cobber."
http://www.themediadrome.com/content/articles/food_articles/cannery.htm

--efn
Subject: Re: Sweet Corn Canning - How do they get the Corn off the Cob?
From: efn-ga on 22 Jan 2003 23:03 PST
 
Since Addie is clearly more interested in the mechanics of getting the
kernels off the cob than in where this happens, I will throw in one
more link to pictures and a fairly detailed description of a
19th-century corn cutter:

http://www.buffnet.net/~macdowel/cross/corn.htm

Considering that few people are interested in this topic, it may
involve proprietary technology, and publishing information about it is
unlikely to help sell machinery, I consider it unlikely that detailed
information about how current corn cutters work is available on the
Web.

--efn
Subject: Re: Sweet Corn Canning - How do they get the Corn off the Cob?
From: moyogi2-ga on 27 Jan 2003 18:43 PST
 
Sweet corn that we eat is not shelled in the field.  Pickers pick the
corn, and the husk is on.  Back at the processing plant, the ears go
through huskers, which cut off the base of the ear, and strip of the
husks by rolling the ear on rollers which pull the husks off without
damaging the kernels.  The husked ears drop onto a belt, and workers
inspect the ears and feed them tip first into the cutting knives.  The
4 or 5 knives are mounted in a round holder which allows the knives to
open up.  The knives have a 90 deg bend so the tips, which are curved,
are parallel to the cob and form a circle.  They are very sharp, turn
very fast, and open and close depending on the diameter and shape of
the cob.  They cut very fast, very cleanly.  Cobs shoot straight
though and go to the waste pile, the cut corn falls onto another
conveyor.  Husks and cobs are chopped and made into silage for cattle
feed.  I worked several summers at a Green Giant processing plant,
canning peas and corn.  Only field corn and sweet corn seed is allowed
to dry in the field before picking.
Subject: Re: Sweet Corn Canning - How do they get the Corn off the Cob?
From: addie-ga on 28 Jan 2003 03:40 PST
 
To enf-ga,

Thank you very much for this, I would assume that the modern machines
would be based on this practise and is the type of machine I had
envisaged (although clearly on a slightly more modern scale) - Your
research is appreciated

To moyogi2-ga,

What can possibly be better the first hand knowledge from someone who
has done it themselves. Thanks for taking the time to share your
experiences on this thread and answering my question for me!

Both of you - thanks!! :D

Addie.

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