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Subject: Per capita violence in the world
Category: Reference, Education and News > Teaching and Research
Asked by: cloud-ga
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Posted: 23 Jan 2003 08:45 PST
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Hi, I'm going to be going on a cable television show early next week.
My schedule is so busy that I really don't have time to do my own
research.

The program is on promoting peace.  One thing I would like to talk
about it how violence has permeated our US culture more than we
realize.  I saw some figures awhile back on the number of gun murders
a year.  US 11,127; Germany 381; France 255; Canada 165; UK 68, Japan
39.  I only picked up the corresponding population figure for Japan
120 million, and I don't know for sure if that data is accurate or
what year it represents.  I would like to have that data verified or
updated if the year isn't very recent.

Any other information that would support the premise that at the
personal and governmental level people in the US act as if we have the
right to resolve our disputes through violence would be wonderful.  It
would be great also to include a few contrasts from other places in
the world that have less violent cultures and why it is believed that
is so, i.e., evidence of successful programs promoting peaceful
conflict resolution.

I am not going to have time to wade through a lot of text or different
sites myself, so what would be the most satisfying to me is if I could
be sent key excerpts from a few of the best sources (with their
reference info of course).  It would be easy enough for me to generate
a long list of site references on my own, so this isn't what I had in
mind.

Hopefully the price I'm offering is enough to make it appealing for
someone else to pull together the information for me.  I think the
topic is interesting and may perhaps generate some personal
contemplation on your part as well.

I didn't know if I should list this under general reference of
Teaching and Research.  In March I will be helping to facilitate a
ten-week workshop on "From Violence to Wholeness."  While the course
material has already been designed for that, this information should
prove a useful adjunct.

Thank you.

Request for Question Clarification by scriptor-ga on 23 Jan 2003 09:52 PST
Dear cloud,

My research so far has revealed the following: The figures you have
seen some time ago derive from Michael Moore's movie "Bowling for
Columbine", in which he used the following international gun murder
statistics for 2000:

Germany......381 gun murders
France.......255 gun murders
Canada.......165 gun murders
UK............68 gun murders
Australia.....65 gun murders
Japan.........39 gun murders
USA.......11,127 gun murders

These are the respective population numbers, according to Interpol:

Germany......82,163,475
France.......58,518,748
Canada.......30,750,087
UK...........52,010,160
Australia....19,153,840
Japan.......126,919,288
USA.........281,421,900

However, it is absolutely unclear what source Michael Moore used for
compiling his statistics. There are many articles on the movie, but
nowhere the sources of the figures are mentioned. Under these
circumstances, the figures can not be regarded reliable.

I can, hovever, provide you violent crime figures for 2000 by
Interpol. Would you like these, and if yes, for what countries?

Regards,
Scriptor
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Subject: Re: Per capita violence in the world
Answered By: robertskelton-ga on 23 Jan 2003 21:03 PST
 
Hi there,

Thanks for such an interesting question. I saw Bowling for Columbine
last week, and although it is obviously one-sided, the message was
powerful.

It appears that the numbers you mentioned are from Bowling for
Columbine, and are accurate for homicides involving firearms in 1999.
I was able to find three of them quoted online, on Government web
sites.


Mr Moore's numbers
==================

USA 11,127
This figure can be found by visiting this page at the National Center
for Injury Prevention and Control:
http://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10.html

1. Select "Homicide and Legal intervention"
2. Select "Firearm"
3. Select 1999 to 1999

[Moore has included cops shooting criminals, which within the context
of his film is quite valid.]

-------

Canada 165
"Thirty-one percent of homicides committed in 1999 involved firearms.
Firearms were used in 165 homicides, up from 151 in 1998, which was
the lowest level since data were first collected nationally in 1961"
Statistics Canada
http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/001018/d001018b.htm

-------

Australia 65
"Assaultive force (that is, hands and feet) was the second most common
method /
weapon used (24.0%), followed by a firearm (n=65; 19.3%). A further 10
per cent of victims were killed with a blunt instrument."
Australian Institute of Criminology
Homicide in Australia 1999-2000
http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/tandi/ti187.pdf


Other Sources for Data
======================

Most authorative studies I found refer to a 1998 study:

Gun Homicide (per 100,000) 
 
Japan              0.03  
Singapore          0.07  
Taiwan             0.15  
Kuwait             0.34 
England/ Wales     0.07  
Scotland           0.19  
Netherlands        0.27 
Spain              0.19  
Ireland            0.30  
Germany            0.21  
Italy              1.16 
Sweden             0.18 
Denmark            0.23 
Israel             0.72 
New Zealand        0.22 
Australia          0.56 
Belgium            0.87
Canada             0.60
Norway             0.36 
Austria            0.42 
Northern Ireland   3.55 
France             0.55
Switzerland        0.46 
Finland            0.87
USA                6.24  

Rates of firearms deaths for most countries are from:

United Nations Commission on Crime Prevention and Criminal Justice.
International study on firearm regulation (revised). Vienna: United
Nations, 1997.[tables 2.7, 6.2 and 7.1].

Rates for the Netherlands, Northern Ireland, Belgium, France,
Switzerland and Norway, who did not respond to the UN survey, are
from:

Killias M. International correlations between gun ownership and rates
of homicide and suicide. Can Med Assoc J 1993;148(10):1721-5. (who
cites 1989 figures from the UN interregional study.)

Online, tables with additional data on gun suicides, percent of
households with guns, registration and licensing, can be seen at:

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/pphb-dgspsp/publicat/cdic-mcc/19-1/d_e.html
http://www.guncontrol.ca/Content/International.html


-------

Different figures, from a 1998 study by the National Center for Health
Statistics, with similar relative differences between countries, can
be seen at the Violence Policy Center:
http://www.vpc.org/press/0203france.htm

...and at Join Together
http://www.jointogether.org/gv/news/alerts/reader/0,2061,549581,00.html

-------

You might also like to see a year by year list for the USA, from the
Bureau of Justice Statistics
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/tables/weaponstab.htm

-------

The best overall site on this topic is SAFER-Net, with detailed
information on firearm ownership and mortality for 35 countries:
http://www.research.ryerson.ca/SAFER-Net/


Without the focus on guns
=========================

Regarding a comment made below - the evidence from the Princeton
undergraduate is way off the mark. Mr Moore's documentary is about
guns killing people, whereas the numbers quoted from Interpol are
purely murders, with no indication of the means used. This is an
important difference, which many commenters on the documentary do not
consider.

It does, however, make interesting food for thought. When considering
murders regardless of method, the numbers for the USA are not so
extreme. Here in Australia, in the unlikely event that someone told me
they were going to murder someone, I would be imagining they would use
severe beating, stabbing, suffocating or poisoning. Only the Mafia,
drug dealers, farmers and hunters would think of murder using a gun.

This table is for the year 2000, except for the UK, which is 1998.

Country   Murders    Population  Rate per 100,000
-------   -------    ----------  ----------------

Germany     2770     82,163,475         3.37 
France      2166     58,518,748         3.70 
Canada      1308     30,750,087         4.25 
UK*         1428     52,010,160         2.75 
Australia    693     19,153,840         3.62 
Japan       1391    126,919,288         1.10 
US         15520    281,421,900         5.51 
http://www.princeton.edu/~eharkler/(html)%20Bowling%20for%20Columbine%20crime%20statistics%20comparison.htm

Data originates from Interpol
http://www.interpol.int/Public/Statistics/ICS/downloadList.asp


Suicide
=======

While it appears that Americans, when in a dilmena, first think of
shooting someone, in other countries the trend is more towards
shooting oneself. Although it is a little less unjust, it is still a
violent solution to problems. In other countries, the Columbine
protagonists might just as easily have committed suicide instead.

Annual rate of suicide per 100,000, 1998
----------------------------------------

Japan        25.1
Finland      23.4
Switzerland  20.2
France       17.9
New Zealand  15.1
Germany      13.6
Norway       12.4
Canada       12.3
USA          11.3
http://www5.who.int/mental_health/main.cfm?p=0000000515




Sample Search Strategy
======================

Google: 2001 Germany France Canada mortality firearm OR handguns
Google: australia 1999 homicide 65


If this wasn't the information you were after, or you would like to
know more about any aspect of my answer, just ask for a clarification.

Best wishes,
robertskelton-ga
Comments  
Subject: Re: Per capita violence in the world
From: jumpingjoe-ga on 23 Jan 2003 10:36 PST
 
Can't help with figures, but you might be interested in the recent
shooting in Birmingham, UK, of two teenage girls in gun crossfire
between gangs at a party. This incident was absolutely unprecedented,
and has made national headlines, caused nationwide shock, and may well
lead to new gun control legislation.

Observer Report on Gun Control
- http://www.observer.co.uk/focus/story/0,6903,868848,00.html

Memorial Concert:
- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2674859.stm

Guns Amnesty:
- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2643691.stm
Subject: Re: Per capita violence in the world
From: rico-ga on 23 Jan 2003 11:38 PST
 
One of those fascinating, productivity-buster questions. :-)
Unfortunately, as my colleague, Scriptor, alludes to, the figures come
from Moore's "Bowling for Columbine." According to a statement I found
here...

http://www.galun.com/misc/seasonal/2002/12/17-Moore.html

the writer claims that the 11,127 gun murders cited by Moore comes
from a Center for Disease Control report for 1999. I was not able to
verify this independently, but did uncover quite a bit of evidence
that Moore ah, "creatively" used the figures in any case to prove his
thesis. You might also want to take a look at...

http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2002/11/26/opinion/6488.shtml

http://www.princeton.edu/~eharkler/(html)%20Bowling%20for%20Columbine%20crime%20statistics%20comparison.htm

...an article and supporting evidence by a Princeton undergraduate on
Moore's claims,  As Harkleroad notes in his article,

"According to Mr. Moore's numbers, the homicide rate in the U.S. is 30
times greater than that of Germany, and 285 times greater than that of
Japan. However, based on Interpol statistics for 2000, these numbers
are actually 1.64 and 5.03, respectively — a difference which is not
due to technical or statistical error, but likely to a creative and
narrow choice of source data on Mr. Moore's part. Most likely Mr.
Moore's numbers are not actually fabricated, but rather chosen from a
year in which the homicide rate in the U.S. relative to other
countries was unusually high and not representative of the average
over time. As the Interpol data for 2000 shows, a broader perspective
might yield more sober results."

regards,

rico

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