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Need to know if a Searh Algorithm is Unique
Category: Computers > Algorithms Asked by: goofy166-ga List Price: $25.00 |
Posted:
23 Jan 2003 14:24 PST
Expires: 04 Feb 2003 08:56 PST Question ID: 147655 |
I am working with a programmer on a new product for identification of objects. We have come up with a great way to narrow the search and we are wondering if what we have is unique, or just another technique taught in computer science. How can I find out if it is truely unqiue and at the same time not give away my idea? I have hired a patent attorney and he has done some searches but nothing he has found seems to fit what we are doing. Is there a specific place I can hire consultants that will work under non disclosure and analyze my idea? Are there books or internet sites that I can go to and find out if my idea has been used before? |
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Re: Need to know if a Searh Algorithm is Unique
Answered By: hammer-ga on 28 Jan 2003 07:08 PST |
As mathtalk states, this is a very gray area, however, if it were me, without more information on the nature of your idea, I would: 1. Do a Google search and a Google Groups search using terms that describe that describe your process to see if anyone is suggesting it as a solution to anyone else. This would also be likely to turn up existing methods related to yours. 2. Go to the websites of products that claim to perform a similar function as your algorithm. Look at their descriptions and technical information in order to glean any hint that their process may be similar (or not similar) to yours. 3. Go to the local computer bookstore and browse through the algorithm books looking for your method. 4. Look to the classics. If you are mathematically capable of doing so, look at books like Donald Knuth's The Art of Computer Programming. He sat down and did the math on many basic programming concepts. 5. Search the periodicals that specialize in algorithms, such as Dr. Dobbs and the publications of the ACM. Ask your local universities' librarian for help. 6. Software patent law is extremely squirrelly. It is difficult to patent an algorithm. Those algorithms that do have patents are notable, like the LZW compression patent. A negative patent search does not mean that the method does not currently exist. If you have an attorney do the search, find an attorney who specializes in software. 7. Treat your idea as if is were a PhD thesis. PhD theses are supposed be reasonably unique, therefore, if you do a thesis search, you may be able to find if your algorithm has been explored by a doctoral candidate. Universities that specialize in software generally publish what their programs are researching. 8. Your question can be interpreted as involving some type of visual recognition algorithm. Nobody knows more about this type of technology than the military (target recognition, etc.). Look into what they use, and what universities helped them develop it. You may find something you recognize in your own algorithm. 9. Eventually, a good bet is probably to cultivate a relationship with a programmer of sufficient age and experience to have been exposed to the history of search algorithms and simply ask. Good luck! - Hammer |
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Re: Need to know if a Searh Algorithm is Unique
From: mathtalk-ga on 23 Jan 2003 21:47 PST |
Hi, goof166-ga: Since you provide no detail about the "identification" process, I can only comment at a very high level. If you truly feel your idea has commercial potential, the best course might be to consult with a patent attorney who specializes in software patents. If your idea is fairly specific (visual identification using principal components analysis, for example), then a patent search may be able to answer your question. If it is broad idea with lots of implementation/application possibilities, then consideration of prior art will play a significant role in narrowing exactly what might deserve patent protection. However software is a young and burgeoning field, and prior art claims notoriously difficult to document or disprove. This is a known difficulty with the application of patent law to computer software. The prior art in this field is simply not well-enough organized to permit any systematic search to be done. There have been efforts to organize such material, both by those who oppose the patenting of software on principle and wish to hinder it as much as possible by maximizing the body of known prior art and by those (Patent Office researchers) charged with fully validating claims of novelty (and non-obviousness) inherent in any patent application. See this article for some leads and perspectives: [An Introduction to Searching Software Prior Art] http://www.ipmall.fplc.edu/hosted_resources/bp98/welch.htm regards, mathtalk-ga |
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Re: Need to know if a Searh Algorithm is Unique
From: coldascold-ga on 28 Jan 2003 05:25 PST |
If the technique is truly unique then it will not be understood therefore a rather simple solution is developed. If the technique is slightly visual then your are out of your field already and in for a dollar run for competition therefore you are on your own in other words there are ways to determine if it be unique provided you have the big bucks to keep brains from traveling and mouths from talking. Who can analyze this? Anyone you choose? Try falling first then standing up meaning if the idea is unique and will profit you 1 billion just dream of how much it will cost to analize(110%). #Note if the patent dosent cover anything the ideas are largly incorperated |
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