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Subject: non-violent restraint
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: lc36-ga
List Price: $20.00
Posted: 26 Jan 2003 20:34 PST
Expires: 25 Feb 2003 20:34 PST
Question ID: 148933
I am looking for a side handle (police?) baton.  It has a v shaped
curve in the middle and a hook type shape at the end.  It is a non
violent restraint and self defense tool.  I have trained with it in a
martial arts setting and have only seen one article written about it. 
The baton is called the Pascon 2000.  That is the only thing printed
on the baton.  I have found numbers of manufacturers in Dallas and
somewhere up in the Northeast, but I'm not even sure they made what I
was looking for.  One was disconnected and the other was a residence. 
I am wondering if the Pascon 2000 is still being produced.  If it is,
how can they be reached?  If it is not still being produced, is there
a warehouse full of them somewhere that someone would be willing to
sell some of them?

Clarification of Question by lc36-ga on 04 Feb 2003 06:32 PST
It is spelled Passcon.  I have been told that the Dallas police have
used them and so have the College Station and Galveston or Baytown
Police.

Request for Question Clarification by techtor-ga on 05 Feb 2003 08:13 PST
Searches for "passcon 2000" or "passcon baton" turn up nothing related
to the police implement. I'll see if the Dallas or other police units
you mentioned post their weapons on the Internet.

Clarification of Question by lc36-ga on 06 Feb 2003 14:46 PST
I don't know what else to tell you.  I have looked on many police
supply sites.  Dallas is the only one that anything ever showed up on.
 There was a name of  a manufacturer.  That was the one in Dallas that
had been disconnected.  I spoke to someone about this and the next
time I visited the Dalles site, this company was no longer listed.  It
has not been widely used by the police.  I think it may have a modern
martial art background.


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Request for Question Clarification by techtor-ga on 07 Feb 2003 07:54 PST
I'll see what I can find. Meanwhile, your mentioning a martial arts
background reminded me of the tonfa, a Japanese weapon that is much
like the police baton (thick stick with a perpendicularly mounted
handle in the middle), and is used in pairs. Maybe what you're looking
for is a tonfa set, or a product derived from it.

Clarification of Question by lc36-ga on 10 Feb 2003 22:58 PST
It is not a Tonfa.

Request for Question Clarification by techtor-ga on 11 Feb 2003 08:54 PST
I've sent an email to the public relations officer of the Dallas
police, hoping they could give a lead on the product.

Request for Question Clarification by techtor-ga on 16 Feb 2003 21:07 PST
Just an update: No response yet from email.
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Subject: Re: non-violent restraint
From: ericynot-ga on 14 Feb 2003 19:36 PST
 
Just a followup. I looked hard for the Passcon without success.
Because I live in Dallas, I also contacted the quartermaster for the
DPD by telephone. She told me she was completely unfamiliar with that
particular device, and her experience with all PD weaponry goes back
more than ten years.

I also talked to the resident baton expert at Monadnock (major police
baton supplier recommended by Dallas PD) who told me he also was
unfamiliar with the Passcon. He thought he recalled someone trying to
sell it to his company a couple of years back, but it was too similar
to their existing products, so they refused it.

Good luck,

ericynot-ga

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