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What specifically is my best PC backup protection: RAID, disk image, other?
Category: Computers > Security Asked by: nc_twindad-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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27 Jan 2003 11:30 PST
Expires: 26 Feb 2003 11:30 PST Question ID: 149167 |
I am looking for assistance in determining the best way to protect my home PC from data loss (goal #1) and to allow relatively easy system restore and recovery (goal #2) with mimimal impact to performance and storage efficiency (goal #3). I am happy to have this be a combination of hardware/software setup, and am willing to spend approx. $100+ on additional stuff, if necessary. My setup: Windows XP self-kitted tower PC, Athlon XP 2100, Soyo Dragon 333 MB with onboard HW RAID, 2 WD 100GB (7200rpm) HD's, both NTFS format. Have one external 100GB USB2/firewire HD, IBM drive. I also own Powerquest DriveImage v.8 and PartitionMagic v.6. I can (and have) mirror the 2 WD drives with hardware RAID 1. I like the protection from disk failure, but worry about system corruption or OS foul-up, or virus damage. No back up. I would like to be able to make an image of the boot drive (mirrored or not) with DriveImage, but in order to image, DI must restart in DOS...in DOS the system does not recognize the external USB HD. Originally I had wanted to mirror the two drives, then make an image every week or so to the ext HD (kept in a fire safe) to enable system restore from a catastrophe. No go. I could re-partition the main drive to put my vital data in a separate partition (to allow DI to image from within Windows), but then I don't have a full image of the boot disk for restore in case the whole system goes south. What about RAID 5? I could purchase another 100GB int HD and (supposedly) get 225GB net storage with redundancy. Perhaps I could then image the boot and other partitions to the array itself, then copy the image files to the ext HD every week or so. What makes the most sense? Are there other products or workarounds to allow images to be taken of the boot partition more seamlessly? Ideally, I would like all of this to be automatic. |
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Re: What specifically is my best PC backup protection: RAID, disk image, other?
Answered By: hibiscus-ga on 27 Jan 2003 13:45 PST Rated: |
Hi nc_twindad, This is a good question. Data backups are too often overlooked until disaster strikes. It sounds like you've got hardware failure pretty well covered with the RAID 1 setup, but it doesn't do much for you if software ruins your OS install. Using another drive and switching to RAID 5 wouldn't do much to solve this either, and anyway I would imagine that your motherboard can't handle RAID 5, which would mean purchasing a RAID controller as well as another drive. This could get expensive pretty fast! You already have a copy of Drive Image, which is a decent package, but has various limitations that I'm sure you are aware of. It doesn't support backups to USB devices, and it doesn't allow you to make an image without rebooting to DOS. I think your best bet is to get a copy of Norton Ghost 2003. Ghost has proven itself to be a fantastic tool time and time again, and the new version is particularly well suited to what you want to do because it now has a Windows interface that doesn't require you to boot the system from a boot disk in order to make backups (though you would still need to use the boot disk to restore a drive image). It has USB support so you can make an image of your drive on to the USB drive you have attached to your system, but it also has full support for network imaging, so if you have a network with multiple machines you could make images on to the drive of another machine. If you aren't backing up huge amounts of data, Ghost also allows you to make images straight to CD or DVD. It allows you to use file compression, so if you have 100GB drives to backup but your external drive isn't quite so large you should still be alright. The new version also supports USB connection to another computer, and supports USB 2.0 to local devices. What Ghost doesn't have, to the best of my knowledge, is any way for you to automate the backup process. Fortunately making a drive image is a very simple operation of about half a dozen mouse clicks, but if you need complete automation you might need to consider another package. I hesitate to offer suggestions because I don't know of any applications in your price range that offer truly reliable automated backups. Ghost, while in that ability, has been an excellent and extremely reliable tool in my PC repair arsenal for years. Oh, and to reassure you, it does support NTFS. You can check out the Ghost page at Symantec's web site here: http://www.symantec.com/sabu/ghost/ghost_personal/ It's available for purchase right from the web site for $70. And, before you ask, my gushing praise for Ghost comes from experience and not from any affiliation with Symantec! I hope Ghost proves to be the right solution for you. Please let me know if you need any further information. I did some searching around for shareware/freeware products that do the same thing, but there isn't anything out there that I feel worth recommending. Best of luck, Hibiscus Search strategy: drive image software, drive image automation, ghost drive image comparison |
nc_twindad-ga
rated this answer:
A decent answer with minor errors. Essentially amounted to a suggestion to try the other software product, which I did. My MB does support RAID 5 and Norton Ghost (like DriveImage) DOES REQUIRE rebooting to DOS to create an image, despite both companies' advertising to the contrary. Seems to be when you need to image the boot partition, but I think my question made it clear that's what I needed to do. Ghost is much more user friendly at any rate due to its boot disk wizard process. |
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Re: What specifically is my best PC backup protection: RAID, disk image, other?
From: ldavinci-ga on 28 Jan 2003 13:13 PST |
My comments are as follows: A backup process won't be helpful with just fancy hardware without strictly following schedules for backup. A complete backup could be helpful to get the system into an usable state. It could also be used to handle hardware failure(disk drive crash), if you could maintain the backup in an identical harddrive and use a harddrive enclosure for the active harddrive, since it will help in reducing the downtime. The only issue being it cannot be incremental and it takes a lot of time, but should not be a problem as you do it only after significant change to your installation(say every time after installing significant software, or significant amount of critical data buildup). The one that could be handy is the incremental backup. It needs a suitable software inorder to be space efficient as you will be doing it often(a software install breaking the system etc.). Additional dedicated harddrive(probably a fixed one) could help overcome the space issue allowing sufficiently long incremental backups(which could be automated too). RAID could be helpful, if you would like to recover from an hardware failure that happened before an incremental backup has been performed. The external storage could be helpful to supplement the need for additional storage for incremental backups. A standalone media backup using cdrom is preferable to using precious harddrive space for the same. The only thing that you need to be wary of the backup process is the ability to document and remember each incremental volume as well as the full disk image backups. Without sufficiently detailed documentation it could become a game of trial and error. It would be advisable to have this description in hardcopy as well. If you are really playing a lot with experimental software, it might be better if you could use a virtual host such as vmware for such purposes, since it will allow you sufficient time to identify the stability of a system before making an install that could corrupt the system. These are just few of my ideas and hope you find it helpful. Regards ldavinci-ga |
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Re: What specifically is my best PC backup protection: RAID, disk image, other?
From: ndone2many-ga on 03 Feb 2003 13:25 PST |
Can you purchase a large drive (if your actual os/data is 100gb,) purchase a 100gb or bigger? If this is possible, I would suggest Ghosting from drive to drive (not a compressed image that you need to boot in dos), Just "clone" your raid onto the backup drive with ghost. If your computer goes down, just boot up the second one. OR you can use something like a dlt tape backup (incremental) with Veritas or some similar backup software that can catalog all your data, so you can just recover what you need, in Windows. I set up a 100gb drive as a master, a 200gb as a slave. The slave just as a ntfs partition (no os) dedicated to periodic nt backup images of my active drive, and most importantly an original image with all the basics, os, service pack, office, etc. that I know works. This saves me the trouble of reinstalling the OS. You can easily incorporate any of the 3 strategies to your raid set up. Either that or a $4,000 SDLT or Ultrium tape device :). good luck ag |
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