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Subject: Small Tools for Accident reconstruction
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: henry810-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 01 Feb 2003 08:02 PST
Expires: 03 Mar 2003 08:02 PST
Question ID: 156041
I need websites or companies that sell a set of reconstructing
accident scenes, The set should include small model vehicles, strees,
pedestrians, multiple signs, police cars, ambulances, etc.... Among
what
one would find at typical and not so typical accident scenes.  I would
prefer a desk-size set that would be pratical to use again and again
and that I can maybe add more features as I go, If it's portable it'd
be great but not necessary just as long as I'd be able to move it
every so often.  The main thing is that is practical and the cars,
models etc etc wont break as I try to reconstruct every accident I
need.  I hope I set the right price, if you think it's unfair let me
know and I will increase it.  Any assistance and
information you guys may come up with would be appreciated.  Thanks!
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Subject: Re: Small Tools for Accident reconstruction
Answered By: angy-ga on 03 Feb 2003 23:52 PST
Rated:4 out of 5 stars
 
Hi, Henry !

Here's a bit of lateral thinking. There's a wide range of scale models
of street signs, people, houses, vehicles etc available to model
railroad enthusiasts, as well as  trees, bushes, walls, animals and
signposts. Scales are O (7mm to the foot), Double O (4 mm to the foot)
and N (2 mm to the foot) among others. There is even the very tiny Z
gauge.

The railway model websites tend to concentrate their illustrations on
the trains - the models you are after are considered to be
accessories, - but most model shops will carry a good range and also
have full catalogues available for you to browse through. Remember
that the word "car" refers to railroad car, not automobile.


Eurorail Hobbies carry a huge range. They can be contacted on
Telephone & Fax: +1 (604) 533-5886 Toll-Free 1-866-799-6098 E-mail:
Sales@EuroRailHobbies.com
They have a large range of Noch accessories :

http://www.eurorailhobbies.com/erh/noch.asp

Their site is easy to navigate and you can also buy the entire Noch
catalogue from them. Switch "thumbnails" to on to see pictures of what
they are offering. They have road surfaces, walls of all types and
bridges as well as people and mini scenes. There are building plates
which even include car park layouts.

A small example from miniscenes:

"NO-10860 Various Signs - Street lamp, standard time-clock, signpost
and bus stop...
....
NO-10870 Sunshade Set - 2 sunshades and garden table with 2 chairs....

NO-10880 Horse Trough - With foal, horse and fence (without
figures)....

 NO-10910 Toilets - With bench and aviary (without figures)"

Prices are in US and Canadian dollars and online purchase is
available.


Eurorail Hobbies also carry many other lines. Click on the
manufacturer's name on the left to bring up their page. Vollmer
specialise in buildings; you will need to check if these are kits for
you to make up yourself or not. Brawa have electricity and telephone
poles - could be useful if you are reconstructing accident scenes !

The Preiser pages show a wide range of models of people and vehicles
for scenes and dioramas, - there are 901 items listed.

http://www.eurorailhobbies.com/erh/preiser.asp

The vehicles are at the back of the list. To get to them without
clicking through a lot of intervening pages, try going to:

http://www.eurorailhobbies.com/erh/eurorailhobbieslist.asp?pageid=&MN=10&SC=HO&offset=870

and clicking to and fro from there. Police vehicles are included, as
well as rescue vehicles. Most tend - not surprisingly - to be German
models. Stickers and decals can generally be bought separately.


The Busch pages may also prove useful. 

http://www.eurorailhobbies.com/erh/busch.asp

"Busch manufactures a wide range of layout accessories including sound
systems, automobiles (some with working lights or emergency lights) to
a full line of scenery and landscaping products - everything you need
to add that unique detail or just finish off your layout."

They have a very good range of automobiles (not so exclusively German
as Preiser), and trees and bushes, among other things. Their "scenic
accessories" include bicycles, fences and a multi-storey car park, and
this is where you will find the traffic signs.


A more limited range is carried by Micro Macro Mundo ( 7138 S.W.
117th. Ave., Miami Florida 33183 U.S.A.
Phone 1-305-279-8033 Fax: 1-305-279-0195)

Their website, which is more difficult to navigate, is:

http://www.rocousa.com

Go to their advanced search box and put "people" in their search box
to find models of people including sunbathers, swimmers, shoppers etc.
Most are in packs of 6 for around US $5 - 7, though there are some
bulk packs of up to 100 handpainted figures. They carry a range of
respected brand names including Preiser. They can be purchased online.

Searching their site under "Road signs" turns up two roadworks sets by
Busch complete with flashing yellow lamps in one and barricades in the
other (scroll down past the trains). or go to:

http://www.rocousa.com/search_results.asp?txtsearchParamTxt=road+signs&txtsearchParamType=ALL&txtsearchParamCat=ALL&txtsearchParamMan=ALL&txtsearchParamVen=ALL&txtDateAddedStart=&txtDateAddedEnd=&txtPriceStart=&txtPriceEnd=&txtFromSearch=fromSearch&btnSearch.x=70&btnSearch.y=11

A search under "Accessories" turns up a variety of autos and other
vehicles by Marklin (below the catalogues):

"Product ID: 18761 
Category: Marklin HO Accessories
18761 AUTOS AND ACCESSORIES "VACATION ON SYLT"
Description: (2002) 4/2002 OTR Prototype: 16 automobiles, 1 small
delivery truck, 3 trailers, 2 motor scooters. These vehicles are a
contemporary grouping that you would see in vacation traffic and
consist of newer and older models. ...

Price in U.S. Dollars : $170.32 "

There's a rescue vehicle lower down the page, as well as people, beer
barrels, chairs and buildings on the next page.

A search for "Trees" finds two pages of various kinds of tree by Noch
Accessories, and "Buildings" finds everything from farms to a Mercedes
Benz dealer.	The range is not as extensive as Eurorail Hobbies.


A plastic file storage box could be used for storage and transport.


It should be possible to make up a good kit from these sources, though
I wouldn't rule out a trip to your local model railway store, where
you can look at some of these products for yourself, ask advice on
storage, see what's on special, and maybe end up with a hobby as well
as a useful work tool. They will have difficulty understanding that
you are not interested in trains, but once that's established will
probably be only too keen to help.

Good luck !


Sources: Railway Modeller magazine, Feb. 2001 Vol 52 No 604

Search terms:
"Fleischmann models"
"Noch accessories"
henry810-ga rated this answer:4 out of 5 stars
Not excatly what I was looking for, but good info nonetheless, thank you

Comments  
Subject: Re: Small Tools for Accident reconstruction
From: journalist-ga on 01 Feb 2003 08:17 PST
 
I have not been able to locate a set like you describe and I checked
the site http://www.accidentreconstruction.com/products/index.asp -
you may already be familiar with their products.  They offer various
software, measuring tools, etc. but I didn't locate a scale model set
like you describe.  You may want to consider making your own set using
Matchbox toy vehicles (usually metal and sturdy) or constructing a set
from miniature railroad products.  However, the latter items are
usually made of plastic.

A link from that site went to CadZone which is a software link.  You
might also consider a CAD program like the one shown at
http://www.cadzone.com/index_crash.htm to use on a laptop computer.

If another Researcher is unable to locate this set you request and you
would like me to explore resources where you might create your own
set, please let me know and I'll be happy to research in that area.
Subject: Re: Small Tools for Accident reconstruction
From: voila-ga on 01 Feb 2003 10:43 PST
 
I didn't find your particular set of tools, but I assume these are the 
types of scale models you're looking for.  You could e-mail Mr. Drake 
to see if he has models that meet your needs.
http://www.jeffdrakeexhibits.com
Subject: Re: Small Tools for Accident reconstruction
From: henry810-ga on 03 Feb 2003 08:06 PST
 
I've seen the ones you guys pointed out but it's not necessarily what
I'm looking for....As far as the models go they really do not have to
be that sophisticated because they're not for presentation, if anyone
else has anything else please let me know, thanks!

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