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Subject: Were to download?
Category: Computers > Software
Asked by: crook-ga
List Price: $7.00
Posted: 05 Feb 2003 00:58 PST
Expires: 07 Mar 2003 00:58 PST
Question ID: 157530
Please could you help me find a site were a can download arena 3.01
simulation package, preferable for free????

Request for Question Clarification by sycophant-ga on 05 Feb 2003 01:36 PST
Hi Crook, 

I'm sorry to say that no Google Answers Researcher will be able to
supply you with this information. The software in question is a
commercial application, downloading it would be piracy, an illegal
activity, which we are not allowed to provide assistance with.

You can find more information about the product at the following URL:
http://www.arenasimulation.com/

Regards,
sycophant-ga
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Subject: Re: Were to download?
Answered By: angy-ga on 21 Feb 2003 20:14 PST
 
Hi, Crook !

While sycophant-ga is quite right that we are not allowed to help with
software piracy, I assume there is a legal reason you are looking for
a 3.01 download, since that is such an old version of the program, and
Arena is now up to version 7.  Perhaps you are trying to reinstall
after a hard drive crash and have mislaid your disks - that's
certainly happened to me. I emailed Rockwell direct to see if they
have a source where you can download this program, or if, like many
software manufacturers, they have "try before you buy" downloads
available.

This is their reply:

"Sorry, Arena Software is not downloadable. It must be installed from
the CD. Also version 3.01 is no longer available. All old Arena Models
are usable on newer version of Arena operating system software.
Possibility if you know of someone with the older Arena text book with
Arena 3.01 CD in the back you could load the student version. Also the
current student version of Arena 5.00.02 is useable with the earlier
Models.
Sincerely yours, 
Ken Janezic 
Rockwell Automation Technical Support "



3.01 seems to have been recommended for student study in 1998 by
Auburn at:

www.eng.auburn.edu/ise/courses/insy456/syllabus.pdf 


They cite the book referred to above:

"Course Text: Kelton, W., D, R. P. Sadowski, and D. A. Sadowski,
Simulation with Arena , WCB McGraw-Hill, Boston, MA, 1998. The course
text includes a CD with the academic version of Arena 3.01. We will
use this software in class and in lab. Based on the license agreement
in the book, you are free to install the academic version of the
software for your use on your home computer. "

Yahoo auctions have two copies at Singapore$18.00 listed at:

http://user.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/sg/user/theshepherd999

You would have to arrange shipping if not in Singapore ! But at just
over US$10.00 it might be well worth it.


Yahoo also lists copies in its used book section, at:

http://search.warehouse.shopping.yahoo.com/search/bgn_all?p=%22Simulation+with+Arena%22&tool=0

For US$57.00 they list the early edition which would probably have the
CD version that you want.


Amazon has four new copies of this book available at US$116.00 to be
found at:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/007250739X/qid%3D1004102076/sr%3D1-1/ref%3Dsr%5F1%5F14%5F1/103-3408356-1734232

I'm unclear which edition of Arena is included (both 4 and 5 are
quoted in different reviews) but I assume it is a recent one.

Amazon also have more copies of the book at second hand prices from
US$50.00 (be careful that they include the CD) and new from US$78.20.
Click on "more choices - used and new" on the right of your screen.
The second hand books are more likely to include the older version of
Arena that you seek, and have the advantage of also being cheaper.

Some comparison prices on new copies can be  found at All Book Stores
website at:

http://www.allbookstores.com/book/compare/0071122397


Barnes and Noble have both new and used copies at:

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/textbooks/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?pwb=1&ean=9780072507393


Various free viewers are available if all you want to do is view
models - see Rockwell's support at:

 http://www.satgmbh.de/support/faqe.html



So unfortunately there is no download site, and the only version of
3.01 still available seems to be the student version at secondhand
prices. However, it is possible to buy that at well under the cost of
the full, new version.

Good luck.
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