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Subject: Word origin and evolution of use.
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference
Asked by: liberty-ga
List Price: $15.00
Posted: 11 Feb 2003 10:07 PST
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Question ID: 159997
Origin and historical use of the term "scab" relative to unions.  I
don't care about the "skin" type term usage, unless it WAS the
original or current basis for the term.  I know how the term is used
today in union situations; I want to know about the original use and
how it evolved, if it changed at all i.e. did it ever have a positive
meaning?  Again, only the usage related to unions.  I've been told the
origin is hundreds of years ago.  Editorial note: depending on your
labor perspective, the use of the word is rewarding or dispicable.
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Subject: Re: Word origin and evolution of use.
Answered By: thx1138-ga on 11 Feb 2003 11:11 PST
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Hello liberty and thank you for your question.

From my research we can make a "time line" for the word 'scab' like
this:

13th century "skabbr" Old Norse. crust that forms on top of a wound.
http://www.takeourword.com/et_q-s.html

16th century "a low or despicable person" (It most likely stems from
the implication that such a scoundrel might well be afflicted with
syphilis, which in its advanced stages causes a "scabby" skin
condition.)
http://www.word-detective.com/041899.html

1700's "any worker who refused to join an organized trade union
movement"
http://www.word-detective.com/041899.html

1811 Shorter Oxford says it originated in US "A workman who refuses to
join an organized movement on behal of his trade"
http://workers.labor.net.au/85/c_historicalfeature_scabs.html

1905 Entered English usage meaning to behave as a scab or blackleg.

==============================================

Someone else asked a similar question to yours:
"I am looking for the origin and the first time that the word scab was
first officially recognized, scab being a person who crosses the
picket line to work while everyone is on strike.  Can you help?

Scab in the `strike-breaker' sense is directly related to scab `crust
which forms over a wound.' The word is descended from an Old English
source with influence from a Scandinavian source. The Old English word
was sceabb `scab' (source of shab, a dialectal form of sceabb. Shab
survives in English in the word shabby). There was also a Norse
relative skabbr `scab.' Both the Old English and the Norse words come
from the Proto-Germanic *skab- `scratch, shave' (source also of
English shave). The form scab entered English in about 1275 with the
meaning `skin disease characterized by pustules or scales.' By the
late 14th century it had acquired the meaning `crust which forms over
a wound.' The word was likely reinforced by Latin scabies `scab,
itch,' from scabere `to scratch.' Interestingly, the Latin word and
Proto-Germanic root come from the same Indo-Eurpean root.

The `strike-breaker' sense first arose in the early 19th century, and
prior to that it referred to a person who refused to join a trade
union. These meanings arose from an early 16th century meaning of
`despicable person."
http://www.takeourword.com/et_q-s.html

(Very interesting article)
"History Scabbing Through the Ages"
http://workers.labor.net.au/85/c_historicalfeature_scabs.html

"Scab
The labor sense of this word dates as far back as 1777. The original
sense is anyone who refused to join a union, guild, or other labor
organization.
There is an older sense of scab, dating to the late 16th century,
meaning a low fellow or a rascal. The labor term undoubtedly comes
from this, which in turn comes from the sense of a scab being a
disease of the skin or something unpleasant and nasty."
http://www.wordorigins.org/wordors.htm

"Why We Say "Scab"
The Lexicon of Labor has an excellent history of the term; it was used
in England by 1590 for a "despicable person in the Colonies "it meant
a shirker since 1690 and by 1806 acquired its current labor
connotation. The phrase "to scab on" has been used since 1917.The term
originally is from the Scandinavian scab and is "akin to the Latin
scabies/scabere, mange, to scratch; and has meant a crust over a wound
in English since the 13th century."(The Lexicon of Labor, New
Press,1998),p.160."
http://victorian.fortunecity.com/palace/400/hist1860.htm

========================================================
You asked "did it ever have a positive meaning?"

Well, not that Iīve been able to find! The only way in which it hasnīt
been used in a negative way, is to say that it isnīt 'defamatory' see
below.

"1989 --  Pilot Union tells pilots it's okay to cross Eastern Airlines
picket lines.
In dismissing a libel suit against the pilot's union arising out of
the 1989 Eastern Airlines labor dispute, the court ruled that
publication of a "scab list" was not defamatory because it was
factually true."
http://www.nwmc.org.au/history2/today2/august6.htm

I hope this answers your question, and if you have any doubts, please
donīt hesitate to ask for clarification.

best regards

THX1138

Search strategy included:
scab  union 1590
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_qdr=all&q=+scab++union+1590

Clarification of Answer by thx1138-ga on 11 Feb 2003 12:56 PST
Hello again liberty, and thank you for the nice rating of my answer.

You said "I'm just wondering about the "researching" aspect i.e. are
Internet sources replacing one of the "granddadies" of reference
materials?"

Well I know there is a lot of debate about this, Some librarians see
Google Answers (for example) as an excellent and useful resource,
others see it as a threat. In any case, I think the Oxford English
Dictionary is safe (for the time being!)

You also said "I wish my question included something about the usage
of the
term i.e. is it increasing, decreasing or changing in any mesurable
way."

In a strictly measurable way, probably not, but I did notice this
quote during my research for you:
"Yo, Joseph, get with the program. They're not called "scabs" these
days. The preferred euphemism is "replacement workers."
http://www.word-detective.com/041899.html

Thank you once again.

THX1138

Clarification of Answer by thx1138-ga on 11 Feb 2003 13:04 PST
Just one more little snippet.....

"New York Call December 19, 1909"
"Magistrate Barlow sitting in the Jefferson Market Court is beginning
to tire of the strike. After fining three girls each $10 yesterday
afternoon for calling other girls "scabs," he said:

"I do not know the merits of the strike itself, but if these girls
continue to rush around and cry 'scab' I shall convict them of
disorderly conduct. There is no word in the English language so
irritating as the word 'scab.'"

THX1138
liberty-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
Prompt and thorough reply.  Well organized answer.  I'm curious if the
Oxford English dictionary would offer any additional details?  We have
one of their 17? volume sets in our local library.  I'm just wondering
about the "researching" aspect i.e. are Internet sources replacing one
of the "granddadies" of reference materials?
Also, I wish my question included something about the usage of the
term i.e. is it increasing, decreasing or changing in any mesurable
way.  But that's a different and probably more difficult question to
frame for asking.  I'm new to GA and trying to understand how it
works.  Pretty good from your answer!  Thanks, Liberty

Comments  
Subject: Re: Word origin and evolution of use.
From: popsracer-ga on 11 Feb 2003 12:01 PST
 
Although the word scab was used relating to unions before hand, it was
popularised (at least in the US) by author Jack London.

The Scab a speech by Jack London 1903
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/London/Writings/WarOfTheClasses/scab.html/

The Scab a poem by Jack London
http://www.cfalapwu.org/scab/
Subject: Re: Word origin and evolution of use.
From: liberty-ga on 11 Feb 2003 12:22 PST
 
Thanks popsracer; that is both useful and interesting information!

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