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Immigrating to Europe
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: lhanry-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
13 May 2002 18:47 PDT
Expires: 12 Jun 2002 18:47 PDT Question ID: 16075 |
I wish to immigrate to Europe, preferably Amsterdam, but have run up against strict immigration rules. I want specific ways to immigrate so that I can live and find a job. I am an educated, mature food service executive. I have already looked at many Web Sites to no avail. I would like to accomplish this in early 2003. |
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Re: Immigrating to Europe
Answered By: fons-ga on 13 May 2002 19:34 PDT |
You have decided to do a very though thing. Europe has a rather tough immigration policy. Most of the European countries work together under the so-called Schengen-agreement, set up to 'defend' the fortress Europe against immigrants. While the internal borders have disappeared between those Schengen countries, it is much tougher for people from non-Schengen countries to enter. I have added a link to the visa rules in Denmark: they would be the same in all other Schengen countries. Unconfirmed rumors say that some countries in southern Europe are more easy to enter, but their official rules will be similar. I'm a Dutch citizen living in China and many of my Chinese friends have the same idea of emigrating (even though China itself is offering more and more opportunities). Most of them end up going to the US and not to Europe. While getting into the US and Europe (I will deal with that later) is likewise difficult, it is much easier to stay in the US the moment you are there. In Europe you will become an illegal immigrant when you are overstaying you visa, and it will be very tough to get a legal status again. Having said that, there are a set of ways to get a visa in Europe. Two of them do not seem to match your case: a student visa or a tourist visa. Europe is very eager to 'sell' their educational system but it means you will have to pay and follow a study and will have to leave again after the study finishes. Getting a tourist visa is easy, depending on where you are coming from. But since you want to go into business, that seems no option either. Getting a real work permit is almost impossible. You would need already an employer who has to prove he cannot get anybody from within the Schengen countries to fill that vacancy. Criteria for IT-related jobs have in the past year been relaxed a bit, but again that is not applicable for you. Then there are the possibilities for short-term visits (less than three months) A family visit can be organized in less than two months when you have somebody in Holland who will cover for you. A business trip on the invitation of a Dutch company can be easier and faster. Make sure the embassy in your country knows that company. In no way this is going to be easy: you need a lot of good luck and I hope you are successful. Links: the Shengen agreement http://www.personvern.uio.no/regler/schengen_e.html Some discussion on the "Fortress Europe" http://www.fecl.org/ The Danish rules http://www.udlst.dk/udlst_engelsk/index.htm The Dutch links for visas (also in English) http://www.minbuza.nl/english/Menu.asp?key=423494&pad=257568,407783 http://www.immigratiedienst.nl Google search terms: * Schengen * fortress Europe |
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Re: Immigrating to Europe
From: magister-ga on 14 May 2002 00:00 PDT |
I would just like to reiterate what fons-ga posted based upon my own personal experience. European Union policy at this time makes it nearly impossible to simply immigrate to an EU country. I am a US citizen who earned my Master's degree from the University of Amsterdam in the Netherlands two years ago. When I completed the graduate program I began looking for work in Amsterdam but always ran into the same problem -- I did not have EU citizenship. EU policy requires an employer to hire an EU citizen before anyone else. For a company to hire a non-EU citizen, the company must prove to the county's immigration authority why the non-EU citizen is the only candidate qualified for the position. The company is also obligated to show that it has advertized the position for no less than three months and still no qualified EU citizen has applied for the job. Most companies are simply not willing to go to this much trouble to support someone's residence/work permit. And even if the company does go to this much trouble, there is no guaranty that the immigration authority will agree and grant the permit. The easiest way to get a residence/work permit for the Netherlands is to have a girl friend or boy friend that is either Dutch or from an EU country and living and working in the Netherlands. The Dutch system is very liberal in that committed, though unmarried, couples can enter into what is called "samenwonen" -- living together. Samenwonen is essentially the same as common law marriage, and it does provide a non-EU partner a residence/work permit. A slightly longer term approach is to work for a US company that has offices in the Netherlands. Companies are allowed much more lattitude when moving employees to different posts within the company, as opposed to hiring someone fresh for a foreign post. Finally, the long-shot option to live legally in the Netherlands is this. Have no less than 500,000 Dutch guilder in a Dutch bank account and enough money to buy a house in the Netherlands. In this situation the Dutch government will provide a residence permit, although I am not sure if it also includes a work permit. |
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