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Subject: Disappearing control keys in Emacs and powerpoint in Mac OS X
Category: Computers > Software
Asked by: zakthehack-ga
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Posted: 13 Feb 2003 05:31 PST
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Question ID: 160849
Why did the control-M symbol disappear from the Insert Slide menu item
 in Powerpoint under Mac OS X 1.2? In fact, I noticed in several
applications that many of my control-key short-cuts disappeared. Very
importantly, under the Terminal feature, control-w and control-u no
longer work in Emacs. They have no effect. Please help!

Request for Question Clarification by maniac-ga on 13 Feb 2003 16:00 PST
Hello Zakthehack,

Hmm. I am currently running Mac OS X 10.2.3 and have neither problem.

The versions I am using are:
  Powerpoint X - Service Release 1
  Emacs - GNU Emacs 21.1.1 (/usr/bin/emacs)
and both work just fine (and I had 10.2 at some point as well - it
worked OK with that version as well). Do you have different version of
these products?

To help diagnose the problem in Powerpoint X, what do you see when you
use
  Tools -> Customize
then select Toolbars and enable "Show ScreenTips on Toolbars" and
"Show Shortcut Keys on ScreenTips" and then put the pointer above the
add window button (looks a little like... + [ ])? On my machine it
shows control-M as part of the tip and that key combination works to
add a slide (unlike command-M which minimizes the window).

For reference the keys are labeled (on a typical Mac keyboard)
  control  option  (apple - command) (space bar) (apple - command)
etc.
from left to right across the bottom.

  --Maniac

Clarification of Question by zakthehack-ga on 13 Feb 2003 19:01 PST
Dear Maniac, you may have misunderstood my question. I just find that
several control keys do not seem to work. For instance in Emacs,
control-c works control-x works (and I know the difference between
command and control keys) but control-u does not work (but the u key
is fine). In contrast in power point control-M does work but even when
I check the box that you described I still do not see it adjacent to
the insert slide menu item.

However, the problem in emacs is much more of concern to me. Some of
those missing control commands are really helpful.

-Zak

Request for Question Clarification by maniac-ga on 13 Feb 2003 19:32 PST
Hello Zakthehack,

I still don't understand your problem with control-U in emacs. When I
enter control-U, and wait a moment, emacs responds by displaying C-u
in the status line. If I then press a, I get four a's (as expected).
The sequence Control-U 2 0 a enters 20 a's in to the buffer. Another
way to check enter (escape) X describe-key (enter) and then enter
Control-U which displays on my system:

C-u runs the command universal-argument
   which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `simple'.
(universal-argument)

Begin a numeric argument for the following command.
Digits or minus sign following C-u make up the numeric argument.
C-u following the digits or minus sign ends the argument.
C-u without digits or minus sign provides 4 as argument.
Repeating C-u without digits or minus sign
 multiplies the argument by 4 each time.
For some commands, just C-u by itself serves as a flag
which is different in effect from any particular numeric argument.
These commands include C-@ and C-x (.

If your system does not have that kind of behavior - I suggest
  emacs --help
to display the version and
  which emacs
to display the location so I can help isolate the problem more
thoroughly.

The one annoying problem I have with emacs on the Mac is the default
key binding for the key labeled Delete (which sends Control-H with the
default settings). There is a way to fix that and can look it up if
needed, but I work around by entering Control-Shift-/ (or Control-?).

For powerpoint, the previous version (e.g., with Office 98)
implemented "new slide" as command-M - though control-M may have also
worked as it does on PC systems. The indicators next to the menu items
in Powerpoint X refer to the command key combinations. That is why I
made the point about the difference between control and command keys.
I don't know why Microsoft made the change in Powerpoint X nor can I
find a way to change the shortcuts. Note also that the customize
change I recommended - changes the screen tips, not the menu prompts.

  --Maniac

Request for Question Clarification by maniac-ga on 19 Feb 2003 16:30 PST
Hello Zakthehack,

Do you still have a problem with Emacs and Powerpoint (and want some
more suggestions) or has the information provided a solution for your
problem?

  --Maniac

Clarification of Question by zakthehack-ga on 19 Feb 2003 19:45 PST
OK, let's focus on a a sub-problem. control-U on emacs just does not
echo to the buffer. control X does as do most of the other control
keys. The u key itself works fine. Even when I try to quote control u
(i.e. control-q control-u) all I get is control-q

Any ideas?
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